Existence of God

Zaki90 wrote:Mein Kampf

that book is boring as hell

BBJynne wrote:

Zaki90 wrote:Mein Kampf

that book is boring as hell

lol you actually read it?..... NAZI!!!!!!!!! ::

part of it

BBJynne wrote:part of it

I think I would be pissed by reading it all with hitlers final solution crap in it.

ReconToaster wrote:

Civ wrote:Being as it's the only logical conclusion that's available, why isn't it logical to come to such a conclusion?

I don't think it's any more of a logical idea than many other theories out there. I don't think it's "the only logical" theory.

There really is no such thing as a "logical conclusion" when it comes to the 'creation' of the cosmos.

Name one other conclusion that doesn't involve an all mighty diety (God).

Death no more wrote:

BBJynne wrote:

Zaki90 wrote:Mein Kampf

that book is boring as hell

lol you actually read it?..... NAZI!!!!!!!!! ::

If people read the book in the first place, WWII probably would of never happened..

It labled everything hitler intended on doing, very clearly..

Didn't Hitler have some sorta mental disorder?

Civ wrote:Name one other conclusion that doesn't involve an all mighty diety (God).

Erm... ok. I could make up just about anything that I want.

The explosion that might have caused the big bang could have been the reaction of two antimatter particles that have always existed.

Our world could be a micro-cosmos within the world of another intelligent race... which always existed?

We could go the path of every universe being surrounded by a membrane which sparks explosion upon bumping into other universes. These membranes could have always been.

You see, when you take out the factor of everything having to come from something (which you have to do eventually) you can make up pretty much whatever you want.

The theory of god is no less silly, but rather simply widely accepted.

True, and people of the achient world believed in what Jesus said becase,

It was easy to follow

Science was limited..

ReconToaster wrote:

Civ wrote:Name one other conclusion that doesn't involve an all mighty diety (God).

Erm... ok. I could make up just about anything that I want.

The explosion that might have caused the big bang could have been the reaction of two antimatter particles that have always existed.

Our world could be a micro-cosmos within the world of another intelligent race... which always existed?

We could go the path of every universe being surrounded by a membrane which sparks explosion upon bumping into other universes. These membranes could have always been.

You see, when you take out the factor of everything having to come from something (which you have to do eventually) you can make up pretty much whatever you want.

The theory of god is no less silly, but rather simply widely accepted.

Notice how everything in there always existed.

CivBase wrote:

ReconToaster wrote:

Civ wrote:Name one other conclusion that doesn't involve an all mighty diety (God).

Erm... ok. I could make up just about anything that I want.

The explosion that might have caused the big bang could have been the reaction of two antimatter particles that have always existed.

Our world could be a micro-cosmos within the world of another intelligent race... which always existed?

We could go the path of every universe being surrounded by a membrane which sparks explosion upon bumping into other universes. These membranes could have always been.

You see, when you take out the factor of everything having to come from something (which you have to do eventually) you can make up pretty much whatever you want.

The theory of god is no less silly, but rather simply widely accepted.

Notice how everything in there always existed.

So did God, but I have a feeling that's your point... I just can't see why it's relevant.

Science doesn't use anything that's beyond its explanation, including infinity and infinite existance.

The second law of thermodynamics, all things lead to a state of chaos. In other words, something can't be forever. Recon, I know that science changes and whatnot - I understand this - but still...

CivBase wrote:Science doesn't use anything that's beyond its explanation, including infinity and infinite existance.

The second law of thermodynamics, all things lead to a state of chaos. In other words, something can't be forever. Recon, I know that science changes and whatnot - I understand this - but still...

if something can't be forever what made god?...

i realy should read the whole argument...

thane321 wrote:

CivBase wrote:Science doesn't use anything that's beyond its explanation, including infinity and infinite existance.

The second law of thermodynamics, all things lead to a state of chaos. In other words, something can't be forever. Recon, I know that science changes and whatnot - I understand this - but still...

if something can't be forever what made god?...

i realy should read the whole argument...

You see, this is where science and religion are separated. God does not fit science because science is simply humanity's understanding of the world around us.

One thing both Atheists and Theists agree on: humans don't know everything.

so if we don't know everything, how can we definitively know there is a God?

we don't lol

tiny tim wrote:so if we don't know everything, how can we definitively know there is a God?

Simply put: we don't.

CivBase wrote:

ReconToaster wrote:

Civ wrote:Name one other conclusion that doesn't involve an all mighty diety (God).

Erm... ok. I could make up just about anything that I want.

The explosion that might have caused the big bang could have been the reaction of two antimatter particles that have always existed.

Our world could be a micro-cosmos within the world of another intelligent race... which always existed?

We could go the path of every universe being surrounded by a membrane which sparks explosion upon bumping into other universes. These membranes could have always been.

You see, when you take out the factor of everything having to come from something (which you have to do eventually) you can make up pretty much whatever you want.

The theory of god is no less silly, but rather simply widely accepted.

Notice how everything in there always existed.

Did you read my whole post?

"when you take out the factor of everything having to come from something (which you have to do eventually) you can make up pretty much whatever you want."

And?

What of the law of conservation of mass and energy?

law of conservation of mass and energy do not exsist for quantum physics


they are used as constants for basic physics... just like 180 degrees is used as a constant for the total degrees in a triangle in basic trigonometry



don't start asking about mathmatical equations and constants to use as proof if you have no clue how to use them yourself civbase

KrAzY wrote:


they are used as constants for basic physics... just like 180 degrees is used as a constant for the total degrees in a triangle in basic trigonometry

So that's how you did it...

?????

This is where I give up. There's no reason for me not to believe in God, so I'll just keep on believing (sp?) in God.

and now I will say what i've said in every religion thread



ARGUING ABOUT RELIGION IS POINTLESS


nobody is going to change their beliefs because of what somebody on the internet told them...


thats why i've stayed out of this thread

KrAzY wrote:and now I will say what i've said in every religion thread



ARGUING ABOUT RELIGION IS POINTLESS


nobody is going to change their beliefs because of what somebody on the internet told them...


thats why i've stayed out of this thread

Yes let this thread die.... its pointless now, we can neither prove or disprove religion, let this thread die.

religion is proved it exists yaaaaayyyyyyyyyyyyy
Jesus is easier to prove cause He existed and hundreds of people saw Him die and hundreds of perople saw Him after wards alive it even challenges people to find some one that was there to tell them that Jesus didn't rise from the dead. no one could cause any one there saw the truth
ask away ill answer your questions