Existence of God

I wanna talk about science though.


I don't really know a lot about physics at all.

kslidz wrote:religion is proved it exists yaaaaayyyyyyyyyyyyy
Jesus is easier to prove cause He existed and hundreds of people saw Him die and hundreds of perople saw Him after wards alive it even challenges people to find some one that was there to tell them that Jesus didn't rise from the dead. no one could cause any one there saw the truth
ask away ill answer your questions

What about that tomb that they found in the 80s that had all of Jesus' family buried in it just like an ordinary bloke of the time that has pretty much debunked the events of the bible?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Pd2bcBe5VYQ
^ only watch the clip at 0:20, the rest is junk
(that's the big bang)

and if god is so high and mighty, a devine creator,










what kind of off day was he having when he made YOU?

KrAzY wrote:and now I will say what i've said in every religion thread



ARGUING ABOUT RELIGION IS POINTLESS


nobody is going to change their beliefs because of what somebody on the internet told them...


thats why i've stayed out of this thread

Case and point.

Recon, shall we put aside our differences for the betterment of the world?

KrAzY wrote:and now I will say what i've said in every religion thread
nobody is going to change their beliefs because of what somebody on the internet told them...

This is my dream. I don't care if it's about God or the shape of bananas... but I will be a happy man when somebody changes their mind on the internet.

Civ wrote:Case and point.

Recon, shall we put aside our differences for the betterment of the world?

Agree to stop arguing in this particular thread? Sure.

And not start another...

I like curvy bananas

CivBase wrote:And not start another...

Damn...

ReconToaster wrote:

CivBase wrote:And not start another...

Damn...

lol... now die thread die!!! *stabs thread in face with scissors*

Death no more wrote:

ReconToaster wrote:

CivBase wrote:And not start another...

Damn...

lol... now die thread die!!! *stabs thread in face with scissors*

No... the thread cannot be killed directly. You must first remove its vessels; those who keep it alive.

*stabs self in face with scissors

Your turn Civ

Thread goes to thread heaven and learns the universe started as a setup for a pub-gag.

>Three blokes go into a universe, build a society, form religion, and creates the concept of a pub. Then... one becomes a Rabbi, one becomes a priest, and the other becomes an irishman!

ReconToaster wrote:

Death no more wrote:

ReconToaster wrote:

CivBase wrote:And not start another...

Damn...

lol... now die thread die!!! *stabs thread in face with scissors*

No... the thread cannot be killed directly. You must first remove its vessels; those who keep it alive.

*stabs self in face with scissors

Your turn Civ

You're supposed to use the sharp end of the scissors, Recon!

Cheese wrote:

kslidz wrote:religion is proved it exists yaaaaayyyyyyyyyyyyy
Jesus is easier to prove cause He existed and hundreds of people saw Him die and hundreds of perople saw Him after wards alive it even challenges people to find some one that was there to tell them that Jesus didn't rise from the dead. no one could cause any one there saw the truth
ask away ill answer your questions

What about that tomb that they found in the 80s that had all of Jesus' family buried in it just like an ordinary bloke of the time that has pretty much debunked the events of the bible?

you mean the one that just has names of different people

thats like saying if you found two tombstones to gether that one said John Smith and the other one said Jane smith and said they were family and you knew a John and Jane Smith that were family that meant they were dead

Jesus Joseph Mary John were all extremely common names that is such a weak source and arguement that no one claims that disproves the Bible any more at all except for people who didnt pay attention and just heard on the off hand and decided to use something they have never researched and present it as fact

kslidz wrote:Jesus Joseph Mary John were all extremely common names that is such a weak source and arguement that no one claims that disproves the Bible any more at all except for people who didnt pay attention and just heard on the off hand and decided to use something they have never researched and present it as fact

They did say that, which is why there was more to it. Unfortunately, I cannot remember what this was because it was yonks ago

Good burn, sir.

Still not dead eh?

can we stop this stupid areguement? No one has proven that it's logically for either points of the areguments, so I say(as others have said) it's time to put this thread to rest.

Cheese wrote:

kslidz wrote:Jesus Joseph Mary John were all extremely common names that is such a weak source and arguement that no one claims that disproves the Bible any more at all except for people who didnt pay attention and just heard on the off hand and decided to use something they have never researched and present it as fact

They did say that, which is why there was more to it. Unfortunately, I cannot remember what this was because it was yonks ago

Good burn, sir.

no i just read it again and all it said was there was a tomb that had two mary's in it a Jesus from nazareth (barabas from the bibles name was actually Jesus, guess what he was from nazareth too) a joseph and a son of Jesus it did not state the relationship of any of them except the son. also there was one that said James brother of Jesus but that was found out to be fake
also the discoverer of the tomb said ...

"The names on the caskets are the most common names found among Jews at the time," Kloner told the Associated Press.

"[Talpiot] was an ordinary, middle-class Jerusalem burial cave," he added.


and this is some of the inscription on the tombs

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/c/cd/Jesus_inscription.svg

convincing stuff, no?

I'm well sold.

But to tell you the truth i stopped caring on about page 13, sorry About the time when I said I believed the most logical thing is that we are in virtual reality for reasons unknown. Good times.

Ahemm....

Thing is...

Religion is a theory and the big bang is a theory.

Religion motivates you. It makes you special. Or at least feel special.

The Egyptians would not have had the reason to build the pyramids if there had not been a religion.

No religion means no motives. You are not special in anyway. You are as worthless as a piece of shit.

Simply,

it is better to have and believe a religion than not. It just helps everyone.

True but lets just watch this thread die now...

So as long as that religion doesn't preach to you horrid concepts..

Zaki90 wrote:

No religion means no motives. You are not special in anyway. You are as worthless as a piece of shit.

Have you ever heard of Carl Sagan? He preached more about preserving the future of the human race than anyone I've ever heard of. He was an Atheist Astronomer.

Not believing that we are some how essential to the universe as a whole does not mean that we have no motivation to strive and better ourselves. I think human accomplishment, without intervention from 'god', is the most impressive thing in the world.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p86BPM1GV8M

Correct, we do not have to look up to some erthal being that we know nothing of. We can believe in ourselves, we survived thousands of years, ourselves. Look what humans have managed to acomplish, without the help of some unknown diety.