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Post by CivBase on Wed Jun 06, 2012 12:19 am

Felix wrote:Maybe they worked with different designs and mechanics after the firing of the halos?
I was thinking that maybe the weapons were forerunner weapons adapted to model weapons on the Infinity as part of a larger plot idea. It's a long shot, but it would also explain similarities to previous weapons. And, of course, forerunner ideas wouldn't be too different from that of humans if the two species share some sort of connection.

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Post by Divine Virus on Wed Jun 06, 2012 12:25 am

Angatar wrote:That's what they said multiplayer is, right? Spartan IV combat simulations on the Infinity?
Exactly. Training and sparring for the S-IV's you could say. Kinda like the War room from X-Men.

Personally, I like the way this is approached. "Training" in MP/War Games then going out in the Spartan Ops missions. I see it fitting as the Spartan Ops chapters will have story and even cut scenes. I am excite.
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Post by A_Bearded_Swede on Wed Jun 06, 2012 12:29 am

Divine Virus wrote:
Angatar wrote:That's what they said multiplayer is, right? Spartan IV combat simulations on the Infinity?
Exactly. Training and sparring for the S-IV's you could say. Kinda like the War room from X-Men.

Personally, I like the way this is approached. "Training" in MP/War Games then going out in the Spartan Ops missions. I see it fitting as the Spartan Ops chapters will have story and even cut scenes. I am excite.

Its nice to see the MP getting a lil story compared to just red and blue people constantly killing each other. XP

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Post by CivBase on Wed Jun 06, 2012 1:38 am

Spekwyse wrote:Its nice to see the MP getting a lil story compared to just red and blue people constantly killing each other. XP
I almost prefer Rooster Teeth's version, though Wink

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Post by Nocbl2 on Wed Jun 06, 2012 9:17 am

CivBase wrote:
Felix wrote:Maybe they worked with different designs and mechanics after the firing of the halos?
I was thinking that maybe the weapons were forerunner weapons adapted to model weapons on the Infinity as part of a larger plot idea. It's a long shot, but it would also explain similarities to previous weapons. And, of course, forerunner ideas wouldn't be too different from that of humans if the two species share some sort of connection.
There actually is no physical connection between Forerunners and humans (according to Greg Bear). A bigger spoiler follows:

Spoiler:
The Forerunners fought humans 110,000 years ago, and then fired Halo and after reseeding the galaxy, they left. They may have both been made by Precursors, but anyways, Forerunners chose humans (who they had de-evolved to cavemen) to later take up the Mantle and etc. The Infinity is based off of all the Forerunner technology humans have found thus far.
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Post by CivBase on Wed Jun 06, 2012 9:48 am

Never said the connection was physical (or genetic)

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Post by Arty on Wed Jun 06, 2012 10:21 am

The two are just very similar.
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Post by Rasq'uire'laskar on Thu Jun 07, 2012 9:14 am

Updated.
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Post by Nocbl2 on Thu Jun 07, 2012 8:16 pm

Arty wrote:The two are just very similar.
Actually, they're not anywhere close to similar...

Did you read the Forerunner trilogy?
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Post by CivBase on Thu Jun 07, 2012 8:48 pm

Regardless, modern human tech could have subliminally been influenced by the ancient forerunners. Many similarities suggest so.

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Post by Felix on Thu Jun 07, 2012 9:12 pm

CivBase wrote:Regardless, modern human tech could have subliminally been influenced by the ancient forerunners. Many similarities suggest so.

Maybe they're not forerunners, but either a race made the forerunners or something mutated them (or they mutated themselves)?

I don't know that is just off the top of my head.
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Post by Rasq'uire'laskar on Thu Jun 07, 2012 9:22 pm

Updated.
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Post by Arty on Fri Jun 08, 2012 6:31 am

Nocbl2 wrote:
Arty wrote:The two are just very similar.
Actually, they're not anywhere close to similar...

Did you read the Forerunner trilogy?

Just Cryptum, not Primordium yet.

You can't deny that humanity is more closely related to the Forerunners than any other species we've seen so far. And even in a devolved state, Bornstellar and the Didact were able to relate to Chakas and whoever the other guy was.
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Post by Avenged on Fri Jun 08, 2012 8:49 pm

It looks to be quite the impressive title and I am excited for its release.

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Post by Dud Doodoo on Mon Jun 11, 2012 8:19 pm

Where in the shit did you come from? As always I'm very interested to see how it all plays out, there is certainly a lot of potential for the game to be good. More than anything I want to know what new direction they're planning to take the story in. The forerunner entity could be virtually anything and suddenly they have a lot of freedom to make the plot exciting, surprising, and interesting.

Of course the gameplay trailer was the first thing I've seen from Halo 4 that gave me any reason to be optimistic. The likeness to call of duty is driving me insane and so far I'm disappointed with every decision they have made concerning multiplayer. We will just have to see.

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Post by Avenged on Mon Jun 11, 2012 9:50 pm

I think people tend to be upset by things that are different but I think it's way to early to judge. In terms of its likeness to CoD I completely disagree, I saw nothing of the sort.

I am very interested in the direction they are taking the mulitplayer. Reach grew stale for me pretty quickly and I rarely if ever play it. It needs something new and refreshing to make it fun again. Quite frankly I am just happy they aren't making the same rehashed game over and over again like CoD.

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Post by Dud Doodoo on Mon Jun 11, 2012 11:03 pm

Customizable loadouts, kill streaks, perks, more emphasis on armor abilities, SPARTAN OPS, etc

The only major changes in multiplayer are undeniably geared towards call of duty and its audience.

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Post by Rotaretilbo on Mon Jun 11, 2012 11:15 pm

Are they still using a weapon unlock system rather than weapons on maps?

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Post by Avenged on Mon Jun 11, 2012 11:17 pm

The killstreaks are only in the Infinity gametypes. I could be wrong, but I would assume the same for the other "cod-esque" additions to the game. People weren't complaining at the addition of Invasion which is very similar to Battlefield's Rush.

The other additions are fine. The game needs to evolve and become something else with each new installation. If it didn't we would all be complaining that we are paying for the same game over and over.

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Post by CivBase on Mon Jun 11, 2012 11:27 pm

I wouldn't necessarily consider killstreaks or weapon unlocks an evolution... but it's fine if they keep the classic weapons-on-maps system as well.

They're not inherently bad traits and can be a fun change of pace, but I still prefer the classic Halo 3 style of multiplayer to classes, unlocks, and killstreaks. As long as they do it like Halo Reach, where they added a sort of class system but didn't require it to be used, I'm absolutely fine with it.

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Post by Avenged on Mon Jun 11, 2012 11:34 pm

I think it should all change how people play the game drastically...I could easily be wrong though.

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Post by Nocbl2 on Tue Jun 12, 2012 12:35 am

Rotaretilbo wrote:Are they still using a weapon unlock system rather than weapons on maps?
There are loadouts, but they are only basic weapons; i.e., you can spawn with a battle rifle, a pistol, and a few various upgrade choices (I forget the details). The weapons still spawn on the map, but apparently they are randomized each round. Which makes me wonder how Forge will work.
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Post by Rotaretilbo on Tue Jun 12, 2012 1:23 am

Half of map balance is in weapon spawns...

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Post by Avenged on Tue Jun 12, 2012 2:02 am

I feel as if people are judging a game for balance before they have even gotten the chance to play it...or see more than 5 minutes of gameplay for that matter. I think everyone should calm down and see how it all plays out.

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Post by Rotaretilbo on Tue Jun 12, 2012 2:24 am

I never said that it would be bad, Avenged. I'm displeased by the FPS market's general convergence on the CoD:MW style of multiplayer, but I'm not judging Halo 4 yet.

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