Re: Halo: Reach

by Cheese Sat Apr 24, 2010 6:40 pm

That does look awesome, but the special assassinations look annoying. Especially since it looks like you're invincible when doing them. Could be another GoW chainsaw fiasco before we know it.

by **Vigil** Sat Apr 24, 2010 6:43 pm

Your not. When you do that animation your vulnerable to being shot.

Also to assinate someone you need to hold down the button, as standard tap will kill a guy from behind as usual.

So I doubt they'll be assassination conga lines like Gears.

by Vtrooper Sat Apr 24, 2010 6:46 pm

well there will be... BEER!

Griff: Flying out of his body

by **Vigil** Sat Apr 24, 2010 6:49 pm

With 7 of your buddies.

by Felix Sat Apr 24, 2010 7:03 pm

Epic game is epic.

by Rasq'uire'laskar Sat Apr 24, 2010 8:51 pm

Meh.
What I'd like to see is an armor ability that allows you to stab teabaggers from beyond the grave, and they have to run around with that knife sticking out of their butt for the rest of the game.

Doing it is simple: you hold down the melee button while waiting to respawn.

by Ringleader Sat Apr 24, 2010 9:07 pm

Yeah, I'm a little nervous about this whole 'loadout' business.

by KristallNacht Sat Apr 24, 2010 10:06 pm

why? seems like its basically just letting you choose a starting weapon in a regular halo match

by Ringleader Sat Apr 24, 2010 10:31 pm

Yeah, but some guns are better then others, but more importantly, some people are way better with certain guns (that they now have instant access too) then others are. So these people (who probably will only use the DMR) no longer have to run the gauntlet to get the good stuff.

I guess they did a fair deal of balancing to make sure that everything is in working order, but the BR has been overpowered in two consecutive games, so who knows? I just have a feeling that certain classes will be spammed like no tomorrow.

by **Vigil** Sun Apr 25, 2010 4:14 am

DMR is single shot and if you spam the trigger you won't hit shit.

People will have to fire it consveratively.

by KristallNacht Sun Apr 25, 2010 8:52 am

yeah, DMR has a cadence. in the vidoc they showed what happens if you just spam it....that guy just keeps walking and scoffs at you

by KristallNacht Sun Apr 25, 2010 8:54 am

Ringleader wrote:Yeah, but some guns are better then others, but more importantly, some people are way better with certain guns (that they now have instant access too) then others are. So these people (who probably will only use the DMR) no longer have to run the gauntlet to get the good stuff.

in case you didn't notice...there aren't that many loadouts....and in halo 2 everyone started with the BR anyway. was Halo 2s multiplayer shit because of that? hell no.

by Ringleader Sun Apr 25, 2010 9:37 am

Halo 2's multiplayer was not shit? Are you sure you were playing the right game?

The BR was the worst thing that could ever happen to halo, it utterly destroyed the gameplay mechanics. The thing is, it's not about everyone spawning with the same gun, it is having certain guns that certain people are really good at using, available to them every time they spawn.

And like I already said, I'm sure they did a great deal of balancing, so my suspicions are (hopefully) not pertinent.

by KristallNacht Sun Apr 25, 2010 10:57 am

yeah...halo 2's multiplayer was shit...hence why it was still active until only this month...when the game released like 7 years ago...

by **Angatar** Sun Apr 25, 2010 11:39 am

Ringleader wrote:
The BR was the worst thing that could ever happen to halo, it utterly destroyed the gameplay mechanics. The thing is, it's not about everyone spawning with the same gun, it is having certain guns that certain people are really good at using, available to them every time they spawn.

Pistol in Halo CE. Gameplay was still very good, better than Halo 3's.

by Rasq'uire'laskar Sun Apr 25, 2010 1:00 pm

Ringleader wrote:Halo 2's multiplayer was not shit? Are you sure you were playing the right game?

The BR was the worst thing that could ever happen to halo, it utterly destroyed the gameplay mechanics.

Lol, yeah...
It had absolutely nothing to do with dual-wielding and SMG starters, of course.

by Ringleader Sun Apr 25, 2010 8:17 pm

KristallNacht wrote:yeah...halo 2's multiplayer was shit...hence why it was still active until only this month...when the game released like 7 years ago...

I played it knowing that the mechanics were fundamentally flawed, and I stopped a long time ago because Halo 3 came out (the lesser of two evils). When I play halo 2 or 3, half the time it feels like I'm bashing my brains out with a rock, but I still played it because I'm bored. It was marginally entertaining but it caused an unnecessary amount of grief for everyone that wouldn't stoop down to using the BR (bewitch rifle). Playing Halo 2 and 3 is like, mental masochism, more then genuine entertainment.

and if the timelessness of a game is a measure of how good it is, then I guess Halo CE would be better because a lot of people including myself still play it.

by **CivBase** Mon Apr 26, 2010 12:05 am

Yah... cuz you all hate Halo... riiiiiiiight...

-_-

by **Vigil** Mon Apr 26, 2010 3:54 am

Ringleader wrote:
KristallNacht wrote:yeah...halo 2's multiplayer was shit...hence why it was still active until only this month...when the game released like 7 years ago...

I played it knowing that the mechanics were fundamentally flawed, and I stopped a long time ago because Halo 3 came out (the lesser of two evils). When I play halo 2 or 3, half the time it feels like I'm bashing my brains out with a rock, but I still played it because I'm bored. It was marginally entertaining but it caused an unnecessary amount of grief for everyone that wouldn't stoop down to using the BR (bewitch rifle). Playing Halo 2 and 3 is like, mental masochism, more then genuine entertainment.

and if the timelessness of a game is a measure of how good it is, then I guess Halo CE would be better because a lot of people including myself still play it.

by Ringleader Mon Apr 26, 2010 5:39 am

CivBase wrote:Yah... cuz you all hate Halo... riiiiiiiight...

-_-

Halo 2 multiplayer? I said it was mechanically flawed, not that I hate it, most games are mechanically flawed in some way or another.

by KristallNacht Mon Apr 26, 2010 6:14 am

and then you proceeded to talk about how halo multiplayer isn't even fun but purely painful...

yeah.....sure....

by **CivBase** Mon Apr 26, 2010 7:18 am

Indeed. Halo is not a perfect game by far, but it has earned its reputation. Using torture metaphores hardly do it justice.

by **Vigil** Mon Apr 26, 2010 7:29 am

Ringleader wrote:
CivBase wrote:Yah... cuz you all hate Halo... riiiiiiiight...

-_-

Halo 2 multiplayer? I said it was mechanically flawed, not that I hate it, most games are mechanically flawed in some way or another.

Then why are you talking in a thread called Halo: Reach?

They aren't going to a change a formula that has been successful for nearly a decade just because a minority of fans (Like you) didn't enjoy that gameplay. I hate MW2 multiplayer style, but it's not going to stop Infinity ward making MW3 virtually unchanged from MW2. I can live with that, as I'm not venturing into the COD series again.

Reach is going to be very similar to Halo 3's multiplayer, just expand on it, as 3 did with Halo 2. It's a very linear expansion, as it not going to be a ground-up upheal of the old system, more a reinfinement.

If you didn't like Halo 2 online, you won't like Halo 3 Online, and ergo Reach online.

If it 'tortures' you so much, I suggest you go find another multiplayer game, and if you give a damn about Halo anymore (Seriously a lot here seem to be more or less done with it.) Just rent it, finish the campaign and leave it.

by **CivBase** Mon Apr 26, 2010 8:02 am

Well said. IMO, it's better to polish something to a shine than to constantly rebuild a good thing. Halo 3 is probably the best multiplayer system I've ever seen and Reach looks like it is doing some major building on what works. I'm happy with that.

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