Re: Mass Effect 2

by Ruski Sat Feb 27, 2010 12:53 pm

Vigil wrote:
Ukurse wrote:
Vigil wrote:
Angatar wrote:You need to buy it with MS points I think, with the Cerberus Network it's free.

If you didn't get the code with the game, the Cereberus network costs 1200 MS.

EA's a bit of a douche like that.
And why would I pay for it exactly?

Because it's the only way to access Mass Effect 2's DLC.

Sounds like another douche move on their part.

by **Vigil** Sat Feb 27, 2010 12:58 pm

Why do you think I hate EA?

They always pull off shit like this that makes my blood boil.

by Ringleader Sat Feb 27, 2010 1:09 pm

It comes free with the game, so...

by **Vigil** Sat Feb 27, 2010 5:35 pm

Ringleader wrote:It comes free with the game, so...

If you get it preowned or rent it, you're fucked.

I do feel that the massive preowned game industry does hurt game developers, but I think was a pretty radical and unfair step to stop it. A digtial download would be more prudent.

by MrX Sat Feb 27, 2010 6:38 pm

EA THE ALMIGHTY GAME KILLER!!!!

by PiEdude Sat Feb 27, 2010 6:50 pm

sargentbilco wrote:EA THE ALMIGHTY GAME KILLER!!!!

Just look at what they did to my beloved Spore...

by MrX Sat Feb 27, 2010 6:53 pm

sarcasm?

by PiEdude Sat Feb 27, 2010 6:55 pm

No, not sarcasm.

Spore was going to be great, until EA got their greasy tendrils all over it (giggity?).

by Cheese Sat Feb 27, 2010 7:00 pm

PiEdude wrote:No, not sarcasm.

Spore was going to be great, until EA got their greasy tendrils all over it (giggity?).

No.

But I agree, Spore had so much potential. For a great game of spore just play the cell stage (because come on that was awesome), Populous, Medieval Total War, Civilizations, and Civ has a space game too. I've not tried it but it looks good. I'm not really sure of a good space empire builder. Maybe one of the Dune series. Or Star Wars or something.

by Gauz Sat Feb 27, 2010 9:01 pm

Challenge Everything

by TYFIGHTER Tue Mar 02, 2010 2:19 am

I think the Cerberus Network thing was a brilliant move by EA. The used game business is extremely shady. They dont see a penny of the money brought in from used games. They made the game, they should get the money for them! Getting the Cerberus Network free when you buy it new is a smart strategy.

by **Vigil** Tue Mar 02, 2010 3:53 am

Places like Gamestop whore themselves out with used games, any time I've been in your country and been in one there are huge iles filled with pre-owned games. The same is present and it especially becomes a problem when you see pretty recent titles like Dark Void and Bioshock 2 preowned about £10-£15 pounds cheaper.

Sure This a good way to stamp out that culture a tad, which is why we're seing a lot more Pre-order bonuses with games, to try and entice people to buy it new, but honestly, in the future the simplest and easiest way to avoid this is make them digtial downloads.

by Cheese Tue Mar 02, 2010 10:15 am

My problem with digital downloads is the future. I must have at the very least £150 invested in Steam, and that won't last forever. I might be incredibly lucky and have them last another 20 years, but what about when I get nostalgic and want to whip out the Medieval Total War?

Online support for Halo 2 recently went down. What happens when this turns into Halo 4 (only an example, relax) going offline entirely?

So yeah, I don't even have my xbox connected to the net and I dont really mind. So long as they keep making physical permanent games I'm happy.

by **Vigil** Tue Mar 02, 2010 12:04 pm

Honestly, I still have all my PS1 and N64 games and I will keep them because I do go back and play them, so digtial downloads are worrying.

Hopefully if you save them on your hard drive, they're there for life. We won't see mainstream digital downloading distribution for at least another 15 years, definately not this generation or the next.

by PiEdude Tue Mar 02, 2010 5:37 pm

I try not to make short term assumptions on technology anymore.

by Cheese Tue Mar 02, 2010 5:52 pm

So does that mean your against it? (well not against it, but you know what I mean)

And Vigil, I must play final fantasy 7 through at least once a year. That and pokemon snap.

by PiEdude Tue Mar 02, 2010 6:05 pm

Against what?

Anyway, I just don't make short-term predictions because of the almost random spikes caused by innovation.

For example, just the other day, I first heard of this "BloomBox".

Fuel cells have been around for a while, I know, but when I found out places like Google and (soon, apparently) Coca-Cola were using small boxes to power individual buildings, Mind=Blown.
My vision of futuristic power distribution went from having large Fusion power plants distributing power like modern day oil and coal powered ones, to individual energy boxes, something more akin to air conditioning or heating.

by Nocbl2 Tue Mar 02, 2010 10:03 pm

Haven't finished the game yet, but my bro told me about the whole Collector/Prothean/Reaper connection.

by Ringleader Wed Mar 03, 2010 5:54 am

Hit him.

by PiEdude Wed Mar 03, 2010 6:04 am

Kill him. Then hit him.

by Gold Spartan Wed Mar 03, 2010 8:13 pm

Eat him. Kill him. Then hit him.

by JB Wed Mar 03, 2010 9:34 pm

Set his face on fire. Eat him. Kill him. Then hit him.

by **Vigil** Thu Mar 04, 2010 6:47 am

Cheese wrote:So does that mean your against it? (well not against it, but you know what I mean)

And Vigil, I must play final fantasy 7 through at least once a year. That and pokemon snap.

I wouldn't be happy if we switched to complete digital distribution, if that's what you meant. I do like a physical disc that is mine until and do what I want with.

I understand where you are coming from Pie, but right now, I don't think the console market can really switch to complete digital distribution. Xbox Live and the Playstation network are still in their infancy, and while we do see arcade games exclusively online, they are no where near as complex and expensive as a standard multimillion title.

Sure they have put in Games on Demand, but right now, even with the biggest harddrive available on the 360 (280GB) you'd only get about 10-20 games on there before you have to start deleting titles, which hardly helps their strategy to buy as many games as possible, as you'd be reluctant to remove games you'd like for new titles you weren't sure off.

by PiEdude Thu Mar 04, 2010 6:07 pm

Vigil wrote:
Cheese wrote:So does that mean your against it? (well not against it, but you know what I mean)

And Vigil, I must play final fantasy 7 through at least once a year. That and pokemon snap.

I wouldn't be happy if we switched to complete digital distribution, if that's what you meant. I do like a physical disc that is mine until and do what I want with.

I understand where you are coming from Pie, but right now, I don't think the console market can really switch to complete digital distribution. Xbox Live and the Playstation network are still in their infancy, and while we do see arcade games exclusively online, they are no where near as complex and expensive as a standard multimillion title.

Sure they have put in Games on Demand, but right now, even with the biggest harddrive available on the 360 (280GB) you'd only get about 10-20 games on there before you have to start deleting titles, which hardly helps their strategy to buy as many games as possible, as you'd be reluctant to remove games you'd like for new titles you weren't sure off.

by Death no More Fri Mar 05, 2010 4:44 am

Chop his toes off then set his face on fire. Eat him. Kill him. Then hit him.

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