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Cheese wrote:Yeah, I'm pretty sure original sin prevents foetuses going to heaven. Good old purgatory. Could easily be wrong though.

The Catholic church actually destroyed the idea of Limbo/purgatory.

wow catholic progress
someone call ripleys

I'm atheist - just looking at it from what I thought was the bible point of view

Did not know they did that... Learn something new every day

yeah no offense but if you only know as much as catholics about the Bible then you dont know anything

Kslidz wrote:also by your logic i should kill you cause you think life sucks so id be helping you out

Are you talking to me? I did not say life sucks. I said that, in comparison to heaven, Earth is pretty crummy. Either way, it's better than hell, which is apparently where I'm going.

Thane wrote:so, as long as you're not looking and anaesthetised i can chop your leg off?

I was not referring to physical feelings, but thank you for the over-used analogy.

Kslidz, is seems to me that your main reason for having such opinions is your religion. Is religion really a viable bases for forming laws and regulations?

kslidz wrote:wow catholic progress
someone call ripleys

Have you not payed attention to the ID & Darwinism thread?

yes to civ and recon

@ civ, what you mean
@recon, yep its a great reason i mean every civ up until the past 4 centuries did
not saying they were all good governments

if you dont think we should base it off beliefs what do you think we should base it off of

there is only belief

Kslidz wrote:@recon, yep its a great reason i mean every civ up until the past 4 centuries did

And then everyone was like "hey, wouldn't it be great if we separated the Church and state so we could stop fighting holy wars and burning people at the stake?"

Lets not pretend that religion in government is a good idea. k?

kslidz wrote:@ civ, what you mean

I posted that article about how the catholic church now wants to be publicly open to evolution and celebrate evolution weekend. The church changes all the time.

ReconToaster wrote:

Kslidz wrote:@recon, yep its a great reason i mean every civ up until the past 4 centuries did

And then everyone was like "hey, wouldn't it be great if we separated the Church and state so we could stop fighting holy wars and burning people at the stake?"

Lets not pretend that religion in government is a good idea. k?

oh and dont forget lets implement killing old people cause they suck and try to implement rules to kill children up to the age of 2

im not saying america is like that but communist nations are like that and communism is obviously not religious besides the letter that is quoted for keeping church and state separate doesnt suggest keeping church out of government but government put of church

read it youll learn something

Recon, church is in our government already. Just look at the dollar bill! The thing you want to prevent, though, is the church ruling the government (which it hasn't done with any country for over 500 years).

Civ wrote:Recon, church is in our government already. Just look at the dollar bill!

I know right

-_-

You can't get rid of religion in government. Technically, atheism is a religion. So long as a majority of the people in this country are Christian, we will have a large Christian influence in our government. If that changes, so will the influence. It's just one of those things that comes with a democracy.

Is that the 'In God we trust?'

Our ten pound note has Darwin on it - stark contrast I guess.

Can't wholly agree on you that atheism is a religion though, Civ. Depends how you class it. If a religion is what you believe, then I guess so; but if religion requires rules and a belief system beyond a God or lack thereof (rules and such) then it doesn't really apply.

I consider a religion just to be a general belief system.

Yah, huge contrast, and that's because I'm sure there higher atheists percent in Britain than in the US.

I'm a very strong atheist.

Would you call me a very religious man?

I think not

i am a Christian i dont like being called religious
because my belief system is based off a relationship not rules and regulations

people call me religious i wouldnt call myself religious

Kslidz wrote:because my belief system is based off a relationship not rules and regulations

ReconToaster wrote:

Kslidz wrote:because my belief system is based off a relationship not rules and regulations

lol!

ReconToaster wrote:I'm a very strong atheist.

Would you call me a very religious man?

I think not

Of course I would.

Atheism isn't a new religion at all.