Re: Homosexuality

by **Angatar** Sat Sep 05, 2009 12:30 pm

I hate God because he knows more than me.

by KristallNacht Sat Sep 05, 2009 12:33 pm

kslidz wrote:answer is they can
they choose not to

in the end though, you're attracted to the woman you marry. gay guys aren't attracted to women. So yes, they can very well go against what makes them happy. Just as you can choose to go against what makes you happy and instead fuck guys, correct?

and guys that say they're virgin by choice, I've found to pretty much ALWAYS be lying. They've never been in a position where they could have realistically had sex. Most likely due to their own socially suppressive limiting beliefs instilled by religion and society.

by kslidz Sat Sep 05, 2009 12:38 pm

Gauz wrote:Kslidz, no one chooses who they are attracted to. You do realize saying "they choose not to" makes you sound majorly ignorant. Hormones decide who you will be attracted to in life, there are no choices.

im not talking about ATTRACTION YOU IDIOT LOOK AT MY POSTS

i sound ignorant

every time you post you get dumber and dumber

you choose who you fuck and who you marry

what is wrong with you

i also think sex outside of marriage is wrong and just as wrong as homosexual sex
i have said that many times you idiot but thats why i said

HOMOSEXUALS SHOULD NOT HAVE MARRIAGE RIGHTS

marriage was created out of religion and should stay within religion
i have no problem with civil unions but God does not agree with homosexual marriage and marriage was created in honor of God

to NT read the passage and the Bible maybe then you might understand and you will stop taking excerpts out of context and using them for your reasons to stay ignorant of what you argue against

and also yes i have had a girl to start to unzip my pants

i was attracted to but i am a virgin
why?
i chose to leave the situation

by Gauz Sat Sep 05, 2009 12:41 pm

I still don't believe God would hate homosexuals, perhaps because that would be a massive contradiction.

by **Angatar** Sat Sep 05, 2009 12:42 pm

They should have marriage rights. God loves everyone equally, and discrimination against something that isn't their fault is not love. The way I see it, God doesn't exist or homosexuals should have marriage rights.

by KristallNacht Sat Sep 05, 2009 12:45 pm

kslidz wrote:
to NT read the passage and the Bible maybe then you might understand and you will stop taking excerpts out of context and using them for your reasons to stay ignorant of what you argue against

lol what?

anyway, about attraction. In the end you have to be attracted to the person you marry or you'll be unhappy. period.

Basically what you want is for gays to go against their nature and be like you?

and how about you give me the passage 'in context' and see what changes?

and why do you seem to be so hostile right now?

Lets see whose more 'ignorant'.

Are you aware the both Jesus and Hercules were both born the son of god to a virgin women and when killed both joined their father in Heaven/Mt Olympus?

Are you aware Christmas falls on the Pagan Day of the Sun for no other reason than to increase religious recruitment?

Are you aware the Catholic Church abolished the idea of Limbo (the place where unbabtised children go when they die) so that more people in India (where infant death rate is high) would convert?

Are you aware that the time spoke about in the Bible were also times when Opium was a big deal?

by kslidz Sat Sep 05, 2009 12:47 pm

MARRIAGE BY DEFINITION IS ONE MAN ONE WOMAN

GOD DOESNT HATE HOMOSEXUALS
BUT HOMOSEXUALITY
AND LIEING AND
CHEATING AND
STEALING AND
MURDER AND
SELFISHNESS

he doesnt hate murderers slut cheaters thieves or people who do it but what they do

by KristallNacht Sat Sep 05, 2009 12:53 pm

kslidz wrote:MARRIAGE BY DEFINITION IS ONE MAN ONE WOMAN

lots of words change definition. here's a list:

Word ______ Original Meaning

Awful________ Deserving of awe

Bead _________Prayer

Brave_________ Cowardice (as in bravado)

Girl__________ Young person of either sex

Neck_________ Parcel of land (as in neck of the woods)

Nuisance______ Injury, harm

Sophisticated___Corrupted

by **Angatar** Sat Sep 05, 2009 12:56 pm

Marriage:

Spoiler:

I see nothing that says marriage is limited to a man and woman.

Also, either God doesn't exist, or homosexuals have marriage rights still stands.

by kslidz Sat Sep 05, 2009 12:59 pm

KristallNacht wrote:
kslidz wrote:
to NT read the passage and the Bible maybe then you might understand and you will stop taking excerpts out of context and using them for your reasons to stay ignorant of what you argue against

lol what?

anyway, about attraction. In the end you have to be attracted to the person you marry or you'll be unhappy. period.

Basically what you want is for gays to go against their nature and be like you?

and how about you give me the passage 'in context' and see what changes?

and why do you seem to be so hostile right now?

Lets see whose more 'ignorant'.

Are you aware the both Jesus and Hercules were both born the son of god to a virgin women and when killed both joined their father in Heaven/Mt Olympus? yes oh but did you know that herculese also at the same time he was in mt olympus was also in hades and that herculese was much more like samson from the old testament than jesus
Jesus taught Herc fought sam fought
jesus came back to life and talked to people herc didnt samson didnt
jesus had god powers but not unlimited strength herc had unlimited strength samson had unlimited
jesus never struck a man herc killed many many people samson killed many many people

Are you aware Christmas falls on the Pagan Day of the Sun for no other reason than to increase religious recruitment?
you are half right it was a popular pagan holiday and then Christians that used to be pagans decided instead to celebrate that jesus came to the earth (not because he was born at that time of year, it was prolly closer to easter than chrsitmas

Are you aware the Catholic Church abolished the idea of Limbo (the place where unbabtised children go when they die) so that more people in India (where infant death rate is high) would convert? did you know that Did you know that the catholic church also CREATED the idea of limbo in the first place

Are you aware that the time spoke about in the Bible were also times when Opium was a big deal? did you know that no one ever has ever had the same hallucination as another individual when they were both on opium, yet many many people claimed to have seen jesus doing miracles and risen from the dead

by **Angatar** Sat Sep 05, 2009 1:01 pm

So God, who created the universe, did not create Limbo? What?

by kslidz Sat Sep 05, 2009 1:01 pm

limbo does not exist and never has

by KristallNacht Sat Sep 05, 2009 1:03 pm

actually, its people wrote about what supposedly happened 400 years before they wrote the stories.

so the fact that jesus and hercules aren't EXACTLY the same makes it entirely different?

okay, and about the visions, around the same time period, cultures ALL over the world that had little to no connection to eachother ALL started telling stories and drawing pictures of dragons.

So do you believe dragons exist?

by **Angatar** Sat Sep 05, 2009 1:04 pm

kslidz wrote:limbo does not exist and never has

Are you sure?

by Gauz Sat Sep 05, 2009 1:06 pm

kslidz wrote: yet many many people claimed to have seen jesus doing miracles and risen from the dead

[/quote]
When was Jesus born?

Jesus cannot even be proven to have of existed.

by KristallNacht Sat Sep 05, 2009 1:07 pm

kslidz wrote:limbo does not exist and never has

yet jesus can walk on water?

ever think maybe thats something that changed over time?

just because the catholic church made limbo too late for it to get into the bible, doesn't change the fact that it very well 'existed'

by kslidz Sat Sep 05, 2009 1:07 pm

KristallNacht wrote:actually, its people wrote about what supposedly happened 400 years before they wrote the stories.

so the fact that jesus and hercules aren't EXACTLY the same makes it entirely different?

okay, and about the visions, around the same time period, cultures ALL over the world that had little to no connection to eachother ALL started telling stories and drawing pictures of dragons.

So do you believe dragons exist?

i believe they did

as i have said in other threads i am a creationist

and i think they saw dinosaurs and then indulged a bit

exactly????!!!!!!
they have three similarities

and to the first par t i have no idea what you are referring to please clarify

by KristallNacht Sat Sep 05, 2009 1:09 pm

Gauz wrote:
Jesus cannot even be proven to have of existed.

actually, there are fairly reliable records to suggest that Jesus of Nazareth existed and was crucified for his teachings, but nothing, aside from the bible, suggests he was anything other than a simple philosopher.

by kslidz Sat Sep 05, 2009 1:10 pm

KristallNacht wrote:
kslidz wrote:limbo does not exist and never has

yet jesus can walk on water?

ever think maybe thats something that changed over time?

just because the catholic church made limbo too late for it to get into the bible, doesn't change the fact that it very well 'existed'

im done there is no logic in this debate at all and dont try to use that phrase and say "that means you too" i dont care what you say and am done with this awful thread

by Gauz Sat Sep 05, 2009 1:11 pm

KristallNacht wrote:
Gauz wrote:
Jesus cannot even be proven to have of existed.

actually, there are fairly reliable records to suggest that Jesus of Nazareth existed and was crucified for his teachings, but nothing, aside from the bible, suggests he was anything other than a simple philosopher.

That could be possible, but then that would mean that everything in the bible was blown way out from reality.

by KristallNacht Sat Sep 05, 2009 1:12 pm

kslidz wrote:

i believe they did

as i have said in other threads i am a creationist

and i think they saw dinosaurs and then indulged a bit

exactly????!!!!!!
they have three similarities

and to the first par t i have no idea what you are referring to please clarify

So you believe dragons existed?

and the 3 parts have to do with the life and death of the individuals.

and the Bible was written in 400AD.

by **Angatar** Sat Sep 05, 2009 1:12 pm

Awful: Deserving of awe

This is an awesome thread; a stubborn creationist submitted...

by KristallNacht Sat Sep 05, 2009 1:13 pm

kslidz wrote:
im done there is no logic in this debate at all and dont try to use that phrase and say "that means you too" i dont care what you say and am done with this awful thread

Could you please point out where the logic doesn't exist so as we may fix it and get this back on track?

by kslidz Sat Sep 05, 2009 1:24 pm

KristallNacht wrote:
kslidz wrote:

i believe they did

as i have said in other threads i am a creationist

and i think they saw dinosaurs and then indulged a bit

exactly????!!!!!!
they have three similarities

and to the first par t i have no idea what you are referring to please clarify

So you believe dragons existed?

and the 3 parts have to do with the life and death of the individuals.

and the Bible was written in 400AD.

last post

to the Bible was written in 400AD

you have asked for proof over and over
where is yours
that is just a stupid stupid comment

no well learned individual would say that

by **Angatar** Sat Sep 05, 2009 1:26 pm

It's common knowledge that the Bible was written hundreds of years after all of those events 'happened'.

Your standpoint on homosexuality.