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Post by PiEdude Fri Jan 23, 2009 6:04 am

Do you think Israel should have pulled out?

Personally, I don't.
They shouldn't have been so careless in their collateral damage, but they were doing the right thing by going offensive on Hamas.

They've been surrounded by nations trying to end their existence for 60 years, and it's about damn time they fought back.
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Post by KristallNacht Fri Jan 23, 2009 9:01 am

Israel broke the cease fire.

and didn't it become a Isreal v. Gaza & Lebanon War?
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Post by Maginot Line Fri Jan 23, 2009 9:17 am

I don't think the Israeli's should have pulled out.

If you launch missiles at someone, you can expect retaliation... so, the Israeli's have every right to be in there... even if they are causing a lot of collateral damage...

Anyways, they should've stayed until the job was done...
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Post by Vigil Fri Jan 23, 2009 10:17 am

Both sides are to blame, they've had a mud sligging match for years, with Rockets coming from Gaza, and Israel retailiating.

Israel wants the entire country as it was given to them by God, Palestinians hate them and support terroism.

So tell me, which side should I be on?
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Post by rzgrz Fri Jan 23, 2009 1:20 pm

ummmmm Israel's side.
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Post by KristallNacht Fri Jan 23, 2009 6:13 pm

did you guys miss the fact that Israel broke the cease fire first?

and that they used white-phosphorous munitions which go against international law
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Post by Kasrkin Seath Fri Jan 23, 2009 6:22 pm

Hamas shot rockets and then about a week later Israel went in.


Do you think anyone cares if they used white-phosphorous? I mean, we use depleted uranium which gives off radiation.
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Post by KristallNacht Fri Jan 23, 2009 7:29 pm

it actually doesn't lol
plus we only use it in armor
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Post by Kasrkin Seath Fri Jan 23, 2009 7:48 pm

Our 'Silver Bullet' Rounds have a DU core

And yes, DU does give off radiation. Not alot, but still some. Look it up, there are cases against the U.S. Military for radiation poisoning caused by the tank armor and by found fragments.

I will also believe my third cousin(who I refer to as 'uncle' most of the time) more than someone on the internet... Twenty+ years of military experience compared to zero...
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Post by KristallNacht Fri Jan 23, 2009 8:01 pm

The Agency for Toxic Substances and Disease Registry states that, "to be exposed to radiation from uranium, you have to eat, drink, or breathe it, or get it on your skin." However, The Institute of Nuclear Technology-Radiation Protection of Attiki, Greece has noted that "the aerosol produced during impact and combustion of depleted uranium munitions can potentially contaminate wide areas around the impact sites or can be inhaled by civilians and military personnel." While any radiation exposure has risks, no conclusive epidemiological data have correlated DU exposure to specific human health effects such as cancer.

It is thought that between 17 and 20 countries have weapons incorporating depleted uranium in their arsenals. They include the U.S., the UK, France, Russia, China, Turkey, Israel, Saudi Arabia, Bahrain, Egypt, Kuwait, Pakistan, Thailand, Iraq and Taiwan. DU ammunition is manufactured in 18 countries. Only the US and the UK have acknowledged using DU weapons.
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Post by Kasrkin Seath Fri Jan 23, 2009 8:34 pm

So you just proved my point.
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Post by PiEdude Fri Jan 23, 2009 8:36 pm

KristallNacht wrote:Israel broke the cease fire.
Actually, they attacked a few days after the cease-fire expired.
They've been playing defense for over 60 years, why should they have to wait for more of their people to die before they do anything?

KristallNacht wrote:
and didn't it become a Isreal v. Gaza & Lebanon War?
No.
Some Lebanese militants fired rockets into Israel, Israel retaliated, and then Lebanon apologized and warned the militants to back down.
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Post by KristallNacht Fri Jan 23, 2009 9:35 pm

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Post by PiEdude Fri Jan 23, 2009 9:38 pm

Reporters name is Mustafa.

I wouldn't call his statements unbiased.
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Post by KristallNacht Fri Jan 23, 2009 9:54 pm

what are you talking about? that guy is white

and omg

they showed other sources with the same info? GOD FORBID ONE OF THEM MIGHT ACTUALLY BE TELLING THE TRUTH
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Post by CivBase Fri Jan 23, 2009 10:09 pm

I don't know enough about the conflict to make a good decision, but I'm leaning towards Israel... as for weather they should have pulled out, I have no idea.
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Post by Vigil Sat Jan 24, 2009 8:12 am

Israel wants the entire country. The palestinians want somewhere to live and their old land back.

They are both to blame.
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Post by Rasq'uire'laskar Sat Jan 24, 2009 11:04 am

Maginot Line wrote:I don't think the Israeli's should have pulled out.

If you launch missiles at someone, you can expect retaliation... so, the Israeli's have every right to be in there... even if they are causing a lot of collateral damage...

Anyways, they should've stayed until the job was done...
Bingo.
I would like to thank Israel for their patience, considering how Hamas has launched over 5000 rockets in the past year, and Israel pulled out two years ago after their mortal enemy was elected in the general elections.

KristallNacht wrote:it actually doesn't lol
plus we only use it in armor
Uranium oxide is toxic to inhale, and it is formed when DU bullets strike armor.

And we use it in bullets.
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Post by Onyxknight Sat Jan 24, 2009 2:34 pm

*wonders wheres the nuke the fuck out of both of them option*
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Post by thane321 Sat Jan 24, 2009 3:52 pm

am i thinking of a completely different conflict when i think air strikes vs rockets??
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Post by BBJynne Sat Jan 24, 2009 9:13 pm

Jewish peoples are always trying to steal my millennium items.

so support the arabs

it's niccccee

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Post by Angatar Sat Jan 24, 2009 9:48 pm

lol everyone who voted on this either think Israel is right, or they have no clue as to what is going on.
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Post by KristallNacht Sat Jan 24, 2009 10:24 pm

Actually, both of those are the same side.

Israel broke the cease fire first.
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Post by BBJynne Sat Jan 24, 2009 10:26 pm

I like Israel though, so I don't mind even if they invaded Jordan and gave that to the Palestinians

(and I am aware that wouldn't work, but that's a different issue)

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Post by Rasq'uire'laskar Sat Jan 24, 2009 11:06 pm

thane321 wrote:am i thinking of a completely different conflict when i think air strikes vs rockets??
Ja. I think of the whole "V2 Rocket" campaign back in WWII. Launch the missiles before the terror-bombers show up, bomb the launch sites before the buzzbombs take off...
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