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Post by CivBase Thu Jan 08, 2009 3:27 pm

Anyone else ever wondered why these haven't been introduced yet? I think it would be a good idea. I would ever pay a monthly fee for an MMO, but others definitely do. Mind you, it would be more likely a first-person RPG like Fallout/Oblivion than an RTS like Ogame/AE or a third-person RPG like WoW/Warhammer.
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Post by XNate02 Thu Jan 08, 2009 3:28 pm

i would give it a go if someone made a game like that
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Post by Lord Pheonix Thu Jan 08, 2009 3:36 pm

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Post by Onyxknight Thu Jan 08, 2009 3:47 pm

>.> you pay for XBL im sure they would allow you the play the MMo for free
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Post by CivBase Thu Jan 08, 2009 3:51 pm

Nothing is free anymore...
It would probably just cost around 400-800 Microsoft Points per month or something like that.
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Post by MrX Thu Jan 08, 2009 3:54 pm

CivBase wrote:Anyone else ever wondered why these haven't been introduced yet? I think it would be a good idea. I would ever pay a monthly fee for an MMO, but others definitely do. Mind you, it would be more likely a first-person RPG like Fallout/Oblivion than an RTS like Ogame/AE or a third-person RPG like WoW/Warhammer.

because big companies like blizzard need a monthly income and if people are spending money for a game and not subscribing they are not getting monthly income which would get cut anyway because Microsoft would take some of the subscription money resulting in blizzard putting the price up and and resulting in the price putting people off

and to play a MMO a key board is needed..... lol
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Post by CivBase Thu Jan 08, 2009 3:57 pm

sargentbilco wrote:
CivBase wrote:Anyone else ever wondered why these haven't been introduced yet? I think it would be a good idea. I would ever pay a monthly fee for an MMO, but others definitely do. Mind you, it would be more likely a first-person RPG like Fallout/Oblivion than an RTS like Ogame/AE or a third-person RPG like WoW/Warhammer.

because big companies like blizzard need a monthly income and if people are spending money for a game and not subscribing they are not getting monthly income which would get cut anyway because Microsoft would take some of the subscription money resulting in blizzard putting the price up and and resulting in the price putting people off

and to play a MMO a key board is needed..... lol
Unless they included a base fee...
And you don't always need a keyboard. Many console-based RPGs now-a-day would work fine as MMOs.
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Post by MrX Thu Jan 08, 2009 3:58 pm

no a keyboard in needed
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Post by CivBase Thu Jan 08, 2009 3:59 pm

sargentbilco wrote:no a keyboard in needed
Your determination is admirable, but cannot compare with my logicz!
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Post by Onyxknight Thu Jan 08, 2009 4:00 pm

sargentbilco wrote:no a keyboard in needed
How so tell me why a keyboard is needed and how a consle MMO would not work without it?
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Post by MrX Thu Jan 08, 2009 4:16 pm

download a trial of WOW play it then come back
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Post by CivBase Thu Jan 08, 2009 4:18 pm

sargentbilco wrote:download a trial of WOW play it then come back
Yah... I said first-person. WoW is third-person.
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Post by MrX Thu Jan 08, 2009 4:19 pm

its both like i said download a trial
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Post by CivBase Thu Jan 08, 2009 4:21 pm

WoW works very similar Runescape, though with 1000x better graphics and gameplay. I don't need to download the trial to tell you that it would work. If you can get an RTS to work on a console, I doubt WoW would be very hard.
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Post by Onyxknight Thu Jan 08, 2009 4:24 pm

CivBase wrote:WoW works very similar Runescape, though with 1000x better graphics and gameplay. I don't need to download the trial to tell you that it would work. If you can get an RTS to work on a console, I doubt WoW would be very hard.
and if they do they could make it go to third and first person like in oblivion or make it over the shoulder like in mass effect of do a mix of both
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Post by Lord Pheonix Thu Jan 08, 2009 4:29 pm

There are a few online games like Phantasy Star online, Conan, and others I don't really give a damn about looking for.
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Post by Kasrkin Seath Thu Jan 08, 2009 5:37 pm

There are a few Console MMO's
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Post by Toaster Thu Jan 08, 2009 5:38 pm

They don't put rts' on console becasue there's no point. Most console gamers may not have next gen hardware in their PC's, but just about all of them have a computer good enough to run WoW.

Communication would be another issue. In the case of WoW, most players are forced to go into ventrillo chats because WoW server chat does not hold up. There really is no equivalent to this on console. They could go into personal chats, but that only supports 8 player.

Due to the lack of good voice chat, users would be forced to use text when working with their group/guild. This would be a problem, as most people do not have a mini 360 controller keyboard on their console.

In other words, the huge PC style MMOs could not be done on console. You would have to create an MMO specifically for consoles, an extremely costly endeavor that would be VERY risky.

It has not yet been determined if the average console gamer is as dedicated as the PC gamer, to be paying 15 dollars a month.

Some of this could be solved with use of a keyboard, but Microsoft declares it against the rules for games to require a keyboard.

Also, consoles last some six or so years. An MMO would have to be released year one on a new system to get a decent life-span. That would be long before developers have... developed... a good understanding for the system they're building on.

In the end, MMOs are fine where they are, and they have no reason to switch over.


onyx wrote:and if they do they could make it go to third and first person like in oblivion or make it over the shoulder like in mass effect of do a mix of both

Both of the games you mentioned have VERY simple combat systems as compared to MMOs. That kind of combat is fine for a shooter or action game, but MMOs require a much larger, RTS level, amount of variety in combat.
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Post by PiEdude Thu Jan 08, 2009 6:08 pm

As I've said before, I one day plan on being a video game designer.

One of the games I thought of actually inspired my book(that I haven't even touched in like 2 months) Blood Red Mercury.

The game would be a console MMO that takes place entirely on New Mercury and the space around it.
Unlike other MMO's, it would all take place in one simultanious world.
The game area would literally take up an entire planet(slightly larger than Earth).
I plan to do this by dividing the planet into regions.
Each region would have its own dedicated server, and the servers would be connected, so players could travel from region to region, with no loading bar. There would obviously be slight delays, and a LOADING notification at the bottom of the screen.
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Post by CivBase Thu Jan 08, 2009 6:49 pm

An effective voice chat system wouldn't be hard to do. And RT, most people have a good enough computer to run CNC3, but I see people playing it on the 360 quite often.
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Post by MrX Fri Jan 09, 2009 9:35 am

CivBase wrote:WoW works very similar Runescape, though with 1000x better graphics and gameplay. I don't need to download the trial to tell you that it would work. If you can get an RTS to work on a console, I doubt WoW would be very hard.

similar but different in many aspects

fist before you say anymore about WOW download a trial
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Post by CivBase Fri Jan 09, 2009 11:14 am

Fine... Whatever
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Post by KristallNacht Fri Jan 09, 2009 11:26 am

CivBase wrote:An effective voice chat system wouldn't be hard to do. And RT, most people have a good enough computer to run CNC3, but I see people playing it on the 360 quite often.

but that's only because they have bad taste.
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Post by MrX Fri Jan 09, 2009 11:33 am

well said NT
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Post by Toaster Fri Jan 09, 2009 3:55 pm

CivBase wrote:An effective voice chat system wouldn't be hard to do.


Multi-person voice chat for millions of users takes A LOT of dedicated servers to run well. Even WoW's Voice chat is horrible. That's why people use vent.

CivBase wrote:And RT, most people have a good enough computer to run CNC3, but I see people playing it on the 360 quite often.

Yeah... and the 360 version of C&C3 is a very chopped port of the PC version Cool
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