American Idol
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American Idol
Opinions?
I watch it, awesome show, although I don't think most of you share that view
I watch it, awesome show, although I don't think most of you share that view
Gauz- Crimson Medic
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Re: American Idol
I lost respect for Idol after season 4.
The new season is unbearable, ESPECIALLY with ELLEN DEGENERES as your 4th judge.
She's a comedian NOT a singer damnit! Why the hell is she there?
The new season is unbearable, ESPECIALLY with ELLEN DEGENERES as your 4th judge.
She's a comedian NOT a singer damnit! Why the hell is she there?
Re: American Idol
I watch the auditions for comedic value, but not much more than that until the final 12 or so.
My parents and brother watch it a lot though.
My parents and brother watch it a lot though.
PiEdude- Crimson Jester
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Re: American Idol
this, except take away the brother.PiEdude wrote:I watch the auditions for comedic value, but not much more than that until the final 12 or so.
My parents and brother watch it a lot though.
czar- Minion
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Re: American Idol
the american version of pop idol, x factor. I only watch it when the auditions begin, lol you get some crackpots in there.
R!zZle BiZzl£- Minion
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Re: American Idol
I ranted about the X Factor around Christmas.
Whatever you think of Idol, the X factor is 20 times worse.
Whatever you think of Idol, the X factor is 20 times worse.
Vigil- Dark Knight of the Flames
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Re: American Idol
It was a good show... but now with Ellen in and Simon leaving at the end of the year, it is no more than just another reality show.
Re: American Idol
Uhm
The show isn't only about singing believe it or not, not all the judges can sing, like ellen, but she knows how to be on stage in front of millions of people every day so she qualifies as a judge. That and you don't have to sing to know if someone sings well.
I however do think the ratings will fall with simon leaving...
The show isn't only about singing believe it or not, not all the judges can sing, like ellen, but she knows how to be on stage in front of millions of people every day so she qualifies as a judge. That and you don't have to sing to know if someone sings well.
I however do think the ratings will fall with simon leaving...
Gauz- Crimson Medic
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Re: American Idol
You don't have to be able to sing to know someone sings well... but you do in order to critically judge their singing.
And yes, it is all about singing. Performance is added in, but who do you think would get a better score? Someone who sings outstandingly but looks horrid or someone who looks amazing, but can't hold a tune in a bucket? Let Susan Boyle serve as an example.
EDIT:
Seriously, the whole point of the judges on that show (after initial auditions) is to give critical judgment on the artist's performance as a singer. They offer valuable incite that the average Joe can't pick out. Ellen can pick out some things as a fellow performer, but she can't pick apart the thing that makes the person a performer. What makes the idolists who they are is their singing capabilities. Everything else is just a bonus, and the other judges can evaluate those aspects just fine on their own.
Ellen originally said that she would fulfill her role by being "the people's judge", but that defeats the whole purpose of the judges. The people already decide who advances... they don't need a representative. What they need is someone to tear them limb from limb. She has no place in the competition, and it is nothing more than a publicity stunt gone awry. Sure, Simon was contemplating leaving the show earlier, but I have no doubt that Ellen was the last straw.
And yes, it is all about singing. Performance is added in, but who do you think would get a better score? Someone who sings outstandingly but looks horrid or someone who looks amazing, but can't hold a tune in a bucket? Let Susan Boyle serve as an example.
EDIT:
Seriously, the whole point of the judges on that show (after initial auditions) is to give critical judgment on the artist's performance as a singer. They offer valuable incite that the average Joe can't pick out. Ellen can pick out some things as a fellow performer, but she can't pick apart the thing that makes the person a performer. What makes the idolists who they are is their singing capabilities. Everything else is just a bonus, and the other judges can evaluate those aspects just fine on their own.
Ellen originally said that she would fulfill her role by being "the people's judge", but that defeats the whole purpose of the judges. The people already decide who advances... they don't need a representative. What they need is someone to tear them limb from limb. She has no place in the competition, and it is nothing more than a publicity stunt gone awry. Sure, Simon was contemplating leaving the show earlier, but I have no doubt that Ellen was the last straw.
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Re: American Idol
Personally, I'd prefer the former.
PiEdude- Crimson Jester
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Re: American Idol
Gauz wrote:Uhm
The show isn't only about singing believe it or not, not all the judges can sing, like ellen, but she knows how to be on stage in front of millions of people every day so she qualifies as a judge. That and you don't have to sing to know if someone sings well.
I however do think the ratings will fall with simon leaving...
Just like Piers Morgan is qualified to judge in this type of show?
He was a newspaper editor, he's good at manipulation and slander, not talent shows.
Vigil- Dark Knight of the Flames
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Re: American Idol
I watch Survivor.
That's about it for reality shows...
That's about it for reality shows...
A_Bearded_Swede- Crimson Chef
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Re: American Idol
We're talking about ellen, not america's got talent or piers. Ellen qualifies because she has an understanding of what music is and can judge people on how they sound and understands performance.Vigil wrote:Gauz wrote:Uhm
The show isn't only about singing believe it or not, not all the judges can sing, like ellen, but she knows how to be on stage in front of millions of people every day so she qualifies as a judge. That and you don't have to sing to know if someone sings well.
I however do think the ratings will fall with simon leaving...
Just like Piers Morgan is qualified to judge in this type of show?
He was a newspaper editor, he's good at manipulation and slander, not talent shows.
Gauz- Crimson Medic
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Re: American Idol
So does my choir teacher... and probably a helluva lot more so. Still, you don't see him on national television making millions of dollars.
Re: American Idol
That's because he's not famous enough to be on american idol.
Don't quote that.
Don't quote that.
Gauz- Crimson Medic
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Re: American Idol
only good winner of American Idol was Kelly Clarkson
KristallNacht- Unholy Demon Of The Flame
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Re: American Idol
KristallNacht wrote:only good winner of American Idol was Kelly Clarkson
and Carrie Underwood
BBJynne- The Lord's Blood Knight
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Re: American Idol
Who?BBJynne wrote:KristallNacht wrote:only good winner of American Idol was Kelly Clarkson
and Carrie Underwood
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Re: American Idol
Gauz wrote:We're talking about ellen, not america's got talent or piers. Ellen qualifies because she has an understanding of what music is and can judge people on how they sound and understands performance.Vigil wrote:Gauz wrote:Uhm
The show isn't only about singing believe it or not, not all the judges can sing, like ellen, but she knows how to be on stage in front of millions of people every day so she qualifies as a judge. That and you don't have to sing to know if someone sings well.
I however do think the ratings will fall with simon leaving...
Just like Piers Morgan is qualified to judge in this type of show?
He was a newspaper editor, he's good at manipulation and slander, not talent shows.
Same type of show, same producers. While Idol is music focused, I have seen songs and musical talent on '... got talent' I mean or christ's sake that whole Susan Boyle crap was rom Britian's got talent.
That argument doesn't hold up.
Vigil- Dark Knight of the Flames
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Re: American Idol
I have seen little clips of American Idol and find it just as dull as Australian Idol. It is a good show for those who enjoy music and such but they have to remember that not everyone enjoys watching music talent shows. Over here they had three music talent shows on at one stage ( Pop stars, Australian Idol and X-factor} and they do get very boring to watch after a while. What's so interesting about watching people standing up on stage singing? You might aswell listen to it on the radio....... Perhaps i'm saying this because i'm not the biggest fan of music but i do feel that they drag on with the music shows a little too much.Gauz wrote:Opinions?
I watch it, awesome show, although I don't think most of you share that view
Kristall Nacht: I have to agree with you on that matter. Not a bad singer but i'd definitely prefer AC/DC over her.
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