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Post by Gauz Wed Feb 17, 2010 8:01 pm

Opinions?


I watch it, awesome show, although I don't think most of you share that view Razz
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Post by Gold Spartan Wed Feb 17, 2010 8:03 pm

I lost respect for Idol after season 4.
The new season is unbearable, ESPECIALLY with ELLEN DEGENERES as your 4th judge.
She's a comedian NOT a singer damnit! Why the hell is she there?
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Post by PiEdude Wed Feb 17, 2010 8:04 pm

I watch the auditions for comedic value, but not much more than that until the final 12 or so.

My parents and brother watch it a lot though.
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Post by czar Wed Feb 17, 2010 8:07 pm

PiEdude wrote:I watch the auditions for comedic value, but not much more than that until the final 12 or so.

My parents and brother watch it a lot though.
this, except take away the brother.
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Post by R!zZle BiZzl£ Thu Feb 18, 2010 4:25 am

the american version of pop idol, x factor. I only watch it when the auditions begin, lol you get some crackpots in there.
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Post by Vigil Thu Feb 18, 2010 6:34 am

I ranted about the X Factor around Christmas.

Whatever you think of Idol, the X factor is 20 times worse.
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Post by CivBase Thu Feb 18, 2010 10:54 am

It was a good show... but now with Ellen in and Simon leaving at the end of the year, it is no more than just another reality show.
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Post by Gauz Thu Feb 18, 2010 2:17 pm

Uhm

The show isn't only about singing believe it or not, not all the judges can sing, like ellen, but she knows how to be on stage in front of millions of people every day so she qualifies as a judge. That and you don't have to sing to know if someone sings well.

I however do think the ratings will fall with simon leaving...
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Post by CivBase Thu Feb 18, 2010 7:31 pm

You don't have to be able to sing to know someone sings well... but you do in order to critically judge their singing.

And yes, it is all about singing. Performance is added in, but who do you think would get a better score? Someone who sings outstandingly but looks horrid or someone who looks amazing, but can't hold a tune in a bucket? Let Susan Boyle serve as an example.

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Seriously, the whole point of the judges on that show (after initial auditions) is to give critical judgment on the artist's performance as a singer. They offer valuable incite that the average Joe can't pick out. Ellen can pick out some things as a fellow performer, but she can't pick apart the thing that makes the person a performer. What makes the idolists who they are is their singing capabilities. Everything else is just a bonus, and the other judges can evaluate those aspects just fine on their own.

Ellen originally said that she would fulfill her role by being "the people's judge", but that defeats the whole purpose of the judges. The people already decide who advances... they don't need a representative. What they need is someone to tear them limb from limb. She has no place in the competition, and it is nothing more than a publicity stunt gone awry. Sure, Simon was contemplating leaving the show earlier, but I have no doubt that Ellen was the last straw.


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Post by PiEdude Thu Feb 18, 2010 7:56 pm

Personally, I'd prefer the former.
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Post by Vigil Fri Feb 19, 2010 6:56 am

Gauz wrote:Uhm

The show isn't only about singing believe it or not, not all the judges can sing, like ellen, but she knows how to be on stage in front of millions of people every day so she qualifies as a judge. That and you don't have to sing to know if someone sings well.

I however do think the ratings will fall with simon leaving...

Just like Piers Morgan is qualified to judge in this type of show?

He was a newspaper editor, he's good at manipulation and slander, not talent shows.
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Post by Dud Doodoo Fri Feb 19, 2010 12:20 pm

No.

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Post by A_Bearded_Swede Fri Feb 19, 2010 1:23 pm

I watch Survivor.
That's about it for reality shows...
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Post by Gauz Fri Feb 19, 2010 2:16 pm

Vigil wrote:
Gauz wrote:Uhm

The show isn't only about singing believe it or not, not all the judges can sing, like ellen, but she knows how to be on stage in front of millions of people every day so she qualifies as a judge. That and you don't have to sing to know if someone sings well.

I however do think the ratings will fall with simon leaving...

Just like Piers Morgan is qualified to judge in this type of show?

He was a newspaper editor, he's good at manipulation and slander, not talent shows.
We're talking about ellen, not america's got talent or piers. Ellen qualifies because she has an understanding of what music is and can judge people on how they sound and understands performance.
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Post by CivBase Fri Feb 19, 2010 3:44 pm

So does my choir teacher... and probably a helluva lot more so. Still, you don't see him on national television making millions of dollars.
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Post by Gauz Fri Feb 19, 2010 3:48 pm

That's because he's not famous enough to be on american idol.






Don't quote that.
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Post by KristallNacht Fri Feb 19, 2010 4:27 pm

only good winner of American Idol was Kelly Clarkson
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Post by BBJynne Sat Feb 20, 2010 10:58 am

KristallNacht wrote:only good winner of American Idol was Kelly Clarkson

and Carrie Underwood

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Post by Ukurse Sat Feb 20, 2010 3:02 pm

BBJynne wrote:
KristallNacht wrote:only good winner of American Idol was Kelly Clarkson

and Carrie Underwood
Who?
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Post by Vigil Sat Feb 20, 2010 5:50 pm

Gauz wrote:
Vigil wrote:
Gauz wrote:Uhm

The show isn't only about singing believe it or not, not all the judges can sing, like ellen, but she knows how to be on stage in front of millions of people every day so she qualifies as a judge. That and you don't have to sing to know if someone sings well.

I however do think the ratings will fall with simon leaving...

Just like Piers Morgan is qualified to judge in this type of show?

He was a newspaper editor, he's good at manipulation and slander, not talent shows.
We're talking about ellen, not america's got talent or piers. Ellen qualifies because she has an understanding of what music is and can judge people on how they sound and understands performance.

Same type of show, same producers. While Idol is music focused, I have seen songs and musical talent on '... got talent' I mean or christ's sake that whole Susan Boyle crap was rom Britian's got talent.

That argument doesn't hold up.
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Post by Spartan15 Sun Feb 21, 2010 3:57 pm

Gauz wrote:Opinions?


I watch it, awesome show, although I don't think most of you share that view Razz
I have seen little clips of American Idol and find it just as dull as Australian Idol. It is a good show for those who enjoy music and such but they have to remember that not everyone enjoys watching music talent shows. Over here they had three music talent shows on at one stage ( Pop stars, Australian Idol and X-factor} and they do get very boring to watch after a while. What's so interesting about watching people standing up on stage singing? You might aswell listen to it on the radio....... Perhaps i'm saying this because i'm not the biggest fan of music but i do feel that they drag on with the music shows a little too much.

Kristall Nacht: I have to agree with you on that matter. Not a bad singer but i'd definitely prefer AC/DC over her.
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