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Post by Kasrkin Seath Tue Dec 23, 2008 4:47 pm

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Post by Vigil Mon Jan 19, 2009 5:32 am


Tis a favourite of mine. Very Happy
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Post by CivBase Mon Jan 19, 2009 11:31 am

And this is why I don't like how they teach evolution in schools...
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Post by Vigil Mon Jan 19, 2009 12:51 pm

CivBase wrote:And this is why I don't like how they teach evolution in schools...
I think they should play this song instead, that would be great ! cheers
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Post by CivBase Mon Jan 19, 2009 12:55 pm

Whatever


Not helping...
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Post by Toaster Mon Jan 19, 2009 1:02 pm

CivBase wrote:And this is why I don't like how they teach evolution in schools...

Why? because the words spoken in that video have nothing to do with ACTUAL Darwinian evolution?

Low IQ is not genetic, and thus the human race is not evolving into a dumber race. We may be getting a higher ration of stupid people, but not because of evolution, just bad parenting.

If anything, I find that songs like this are contributing to the devolution of music Cool
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Post by PiEdude Mon Jan 19, 2009 1:09 pm

Aw shit, I smell a debate...
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Post by Vigil Mon Jan 19, 2009 1:09 pm

ReconToaster wrote:
CivBase wrote:And this is why I don't like how they teach evolution in schools...

Why? because the words spoken in that video have nothing to do with ACTUAL Darwinian evolution?

Low IQ is not genetic, and thus the human race is not evolving into a dumber race. We may be getting a higher ration of stupid people, but not because of evolution, just bad parenting.

I bet Darwin is spinning in his grave right now.

They even use his name for a set of awards for people who remove themselves from the gene pool due to their stupidity.

And this bad style of parent will be passed down from generation to generation, we learn everything by our parent's example, and unforunately it can form vicious cycles, that repeat over and over.

Sure, if it can be addressed, and isn't genetic, but we can't just blame the parents, as the child when it grows up easily can make a choice. Some of the greatest minds of the world have come from the humblest of background.

Who would have thought an uneducated autistic child would grow up to discover the theory of relativity.
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Post by PiEdude Mon Jan 19, 2009 1:11 pm

The scent is growing stronger!

Please, just bring this into the debate section guys.
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Post by KristallNacht Mon Jan 19, 2009 4:07 pm

Technically, it's impossible for the Average IQ to drop, since the Average is ALWAYS 100. Since the IQ (Intelligent Quotient) is essentially an average based concept.
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Post by Vigil Tue Jan 20, 2009 6:32 am

KristallNacht wrote:Technically, it's impossible for the Average IQ to drop, since the Average is ALWAYS 100. Since the IQ (Intelligent Quotient) is essentially an average based concept.

I think the point was fewer people are reaching that average.
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Post by CivBase Tue Jan 20, 2009 3:15 pm

ReconToaster wrote:
CivBase wrote:And this is why I don't like how they teach evolution in schools...

Why? because the words spoken in that video have nothing to do with ACTUAL Darwinian evolution?

Low IQ is not genetic, and thus the human race is not evolving into a dumber race. We may be getting a higher ration of stupid people, but not because of evolution, just bad parenting.

If anything, I find that songs like this are contributing to the devolution of music Cool
I never said that evolution made you stupid.
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Post by Toaster Tue Jan 20, 2009 3:27 pm

Vigil wrote:And this bad style of parent will be passed down from generation to generation, we learn everything by our parent's example, and unforunately it can form vicious cycles, that repeat over and over.

I understand what the song is saying, and you're right, but I'm just trying to make it clear that this is not what is stated in Darwinian Evolution. If you cut off a rats tail, its babies still have tails. If you raise a kid stupid, its babies start off just like any other baby.

Stupidity, in this case, is not biological/genetic, and thus would not carry on. It is something that is developed over time.


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Post by CivBase Tue Jan 20, 2009 3:36 pm

Ummm... I didn't write that.
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Post by Toaster Tue Jan 20, 2009 4:14 pm

CivBase wrote:Ummm... I didn't write that.

... apologies offered Cool
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Post by Kasrkin Seath Tue Jan 20, 2009 5:20 pm

the low IQ families/Low IQ families is simply made to point out that the lower IQ children(who generally come from low IQ families) are outnumbering the High IQ hildren, thus leading to more lower IQ peeps than high IQ peeps.

That equals a lower mean IQ
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Post by KristallNacht Tue Jan 20, 2009 9:58 pm

ReconToaster wrote:
Stupidity, in this case, is not biological/genetic, and thus would not carry on. It is something that is developed over time.

nature vs nurture. It's actually somewhat determined by genetics. I'm sure you've seen people that just naturally get it better than others. Nurture isn't completely to blame, though it is a BIG part.
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Post by Vigil Mon Jan 26, 2009 6:02 am

KristallNacht wrote:
ReconToaster wrote:
Stupidity, in this case, is not biological/genetic, and thus would not carry on. It is something that is developed over time.

nature vs nurture. It's actually somewhat determined by genetics. I'm sure you've seen people that just naturally get it better than others. Nurture isn't completely to blame, though it is a BIG part.

Can't argue with you there.
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