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Halo: Legends 'The Babysitter' Review.
by Vigil Sat Nov 07, 2009 5:43 pm
‘The Babysitter’ A Review by Vigil
I’ll be honest, when I first saw the previews to the first part of the Halo anime, Halo Legends, I wasn’t very excited. Now today I watched the full version and I’ll give you my views, please be aware THAT THERE WILL BE MASSIVE SPOILERS. So enjoy as I explain it the best I can.
Overall, I thought it was okay. It did have several things that annoyed me, like the design of the characters (Which was heavily entrenched in Anime cliché) and the strange choice of architecture (They were ordered to investigate the ruins, so I assumed they were Forerunner, but instead we got this strange feudal Japan/ Aztec stuff.) But the story wasn’t that bad, and Canon didn’t take too bad a notch.
To Conclude, not a bad effort, but try to keep the anime clichés to a minimum if possible.
I’ll be honest, when I first saw the previews to the first part of the Halo anime, Halo Legends, I wasn’t very excited. Now today I watched the full version and I’ll give you my views, please be aware THAT THERE WILL BE MASSIVE SPOILERS. So enjoy as I explain it the best I can.
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Our Story begins as we saw in the previews, a UNSC cruiser flies into view and we jump to the mess hall of the ship, where we see UNSC personnel getting a meal, and one marine tries to sit at a table of 4 ODST’s which his friend tells him they’re in a whole different league to him, and is told to back off.
We are then introduced to the main protagonist, O’Brian. He’s a cocky little bastard, with some generic anime hair. He’s not happy he’s acting as support for another sniper, a Spartan. His Commander, Cortez, tells him to suck it up. In the conversation, you get a nice feel of the hatred between ODST’s and Spartans, which had always been present in the books, it worked well and I had no problems with it.
We then transition to a briefing of the ODST’s where a senior officer explains the mission. A High ranking prophet is scheduled to pay a visit to a nearby planet at 12 PM the following day. Their mission is to traverse through the jungle and set up at a position two miles away to allow the Spartan, Cal-141 to take the shot and eliminate the Prophet. With his death, supply roots would grind to a halt and give the UNSC months more time with very little risk. They plan to land on the planet by using HEV’s through an asteroid belt that is heading to the planet. They saddle up and prepare to drop. Again, it all worked very well, and the little ONI insignia in the background really made it credible.
They then shoot out and follow the asteroids all the way to the planet. One of the ODST’s collide with one of the asteroids and is lost to the vacuum of space. The rest make it into orbit and land. Two ODST’s: Dutch and Cortez (Yes, Dutch is the same one from Halo 3: ODST) land perfectly, as does the Spartan. O’ Brian land in a lake and begins to sink. The ODST’s try to get their comrade out, but the Spartan moves up and flings the pod out of the lake, and then opens it with ease. O’Brian is less then thrilled to be flung around and being saved by a Spartan, but Cortez brings him back to earth by telling him about the ODST they lost. They plan their journey to the sniping position and work their way there. Again, not bad, even if some of the artwork for the Spartan made it look ridiculous, as in some parts Cal was a large as the HEV itself.
They traverse for a while and then they reach a large set of buildings, which all look like bigottas from feudal Japan, which I really didn’t understand. Cal surveys the area with a small scope, and sees several Grunts on patrol. They move in and take them out covertly. O’Brian prepares to take out his Grunt, but breaks a twig, alerting it, so he jumps out and fires. Then a Brute Chieftain lungs out but is blocked by Cal. You’ve all seen what happens next. O’Brian nearly falls to his death, while the Chieftain and Cal duke it out. Cal is athletic and agile, dodging and ducking the Chieftain’s hammer strikes and landing some crippling blows, and eventually pushes off the waterfall to it doom. Cal then helps out O’Brian and carries him to safety. O’Brian is furious at being carried like a cripple, but again Cortez reminds him that Cal just saved his life for the second time that day. Again not to bad, though I did think the Spartan Fight was a little over the top.
They then climb up to a temple, which seem to be similar to an Aztec temple. They work their way into the building and set up at the sniping position. O’Brian is still angry that Cal is going to take the shot, as Cortez warns that the Prophet’s shuttle is going to land in two minutes. Cal sets up and links up the sniper to Cal’s HUD. As the Shuttle lands (It’s a Phantom) where a large amount of Elites and Brutes wait. The Elites are in some strange armour, resembling samurai armour. Again, I’m not sure why the hell they have this, as well as the feudal Japan architecture, but I think it was a cultural thing.
We then change to a first person perspective as something creeps up on the ODST’s. It draws closer revealing itself as the Brute Chieftain from earlier, and lunges at O’Brian, which Cal sees, and at the last second, turns round and moves him out of the way and takes a hammer blow to the forehead, knocking Cal down. The ODST’s quickly react and swarm the chieftain, spraying SMG fire into it, killing it quickly.
They turn back to the sniper and Cal’s in bad shape, and they move to assist the Spartan, removing the damaged helmet to reveal Cal’s face. It is then revealed that Cal was a woman, with long flowing hair. She then orders O’Brian to take the shot, as he’s the only one who can do it. He moves to the sniper and takes the shot. The bullet hits the Prophet directly in the head and he falls, as the Elites look for the gunman and roar in anger. As for this, it was a good piece of tension, but Cal’s appearance really irked me, as I really doubt any Spartan or ODST would have that kind of hair. I really doubt their hairstyles are UNSC standard.
They all surround Cal, who gives O’Brian a chip, which she orders him to give to Dr Halsey. He tells her that she should do it, and she simply replies that they both know she can’t, as they both know she’s dying. She says her final words and then dies, and the ODST’s leave in silence. It was an okay scene, though I doubt a Spartan would die because of a single Gravity hammer strike, as some in the books survived much more severe physical injuries. Also this is most likely before the events of Reach, so it’s another wrench in the number of Spartans who were there, which had already been screwed by Halo Wars. I will however give them the benefit of the doubt as they were two unknown MIA Spartans not at Reach, so you could say Cal was one.
For the final scene, we return to Mess hall, where the marine sits down with the surviving ODST’s and congratulates them for their success. He also bad mouths Cal saying she went down faster than a rookie on their first training mission (Which I slightly agree with
) The ODST’s scold him for this and tell him to piss off. O’ Brian looks out of the window and thinks about Cal, and one can assume he has more appreciation for Spartans, and the story comes to a close.
Overall, I thought it was okay. It did have several things that annoyed me, like the design of the characters (Which was heavily entrenched in Anime cliché) and the strange choice of architecture (They were ordered to investigate the ruins, so I assumed they were Forerunner, but instead we got this strange feudal Japan/ Aztec stuff.) But the story wasn’t that bad, and Canon didn’t take too bad a notch.
To Conclude, not a bad effort, but try to keep the anime clichés to a minimum if possible.
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Re: Halo: Legends 'The Babysitter' Review.
by A_Bearded_Swede Sat Nov 07, 2009 5:58 pm
Since the artist is Japanese, you'll have Japanese art styles.
The weird elite armor, and ruins were most likely put in there either to get the Japanese to like the Haloverse more or once again the artist being Japanese...
The weird elite armor, and ruins were most likely put in there either to get the Japanese to like the Haloverse more or once again the artist being Japanese...
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Re: Halo: Legends 'The Babysitter' Review.
by Vigil Sat Nov 07, 2009 6:09 pm
True, I did say I thought it was due to the cultural influences of the creators of this, but I think it should of been toned down a little.
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Re: Halo: Legends 'The Babysitter' Review.
by Yam Head Sat Nov 07, 2009 6:25 pm
When her muscles bulged like 2 or 3 feet while lifting the Drop Pod I was scared.
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by TNine Sat Nov 07, 2009 8:07 pm
Hmm, i read halfway into the plot to discover it wasn't bad. I now want to see the rest at least.
Where can i see it?
Where can i see it?
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by PiEdude Sat Nov 07, 2009 9:13 pm
HARO REGENDS MUST DIE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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by KrAzY Sat Nov 07, 2009 9:20 pm
"canon didn't take too bad a notch"
well... except the whole premise of their mission.... "kill a prophet"
the spartans mission was to capture a prophet... if they KNEW where one was... INSIDE UNSC space... there would never have been a mission to kill the damned thing...
NVM prophets had not been seen before reach... and were a theoretical ideal that the spartans were going to stake all of their lives on.
also.. .the main characters hair would get him kicked out of any military if he had that while in uniform...
well... except the whole premise of their mission.... "kill a prophet"
the spartans mission was to capture a prophet... if they KNEW where one was... INSIDE UNSC space... there would never have been a mission to kill the damned thing...
NVM prophets had not been seen before reach... and were a theoretical ideal that the spartans were going to stake all of their lives on.
also.. .the main characters hair would get him kicked out of any military if he had that while in uniform...
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by Divine Virus Sat Nov 07, 2009 10:46 pm
So when's the next Halo Legends going to be released?
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by Gauz Sat Nov 07, 2009 11:09 pm
PiEman wrote:HARO REGENDS MUST DIE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
I say a mod edit his anti-japanese comments into insults against himself.
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Re: Halo: Legends 'The Babysitter' Review.
by Vigil Sun Nov 08, 2009 4:32 am
KrAzY wrote:"canon didn't take too bad a notch"
well... except the whole premise of their mission.... "kill a prophet"
the spartans mission was to capture a prophet... if they KNEW where one was... INSIDE UNSC space... there would never have been a mission to kill the damned thing...
NVM prophets had not been seen before reach... and were a theoretical ideal that the spartans were going to stake all of their lives on.
also.. .the main characters hair would get him kicked out of any military if he had that while in uniform...
I understand where you were coming from, but that's from Fall of Reach, which also said that the Spartans didn't run into Elites until 2552. It's another Retcon. As for Capturing him, that plan most likely was created later, as if I recall the plan correctly they were going to use a Covenant ship to locate their homeworld and capture a Hierarch.
That Prophet was definately not Truth, Mercy or Regret, and was probably only a minister. They wouldn't have achieved much by capturing him.
The Hair was fucking stupid though.
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by Cheese Sun Nov 08, 2009 5:04 am
They would be kicked out of anime with normal hair.
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by Vtrooper Sun Nov 08, 2009 8:03 am
I AGREE!!!
i forgot about the other 2 MIA
i forgot about the other 2 MIA
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by KrAzY Sun Nov 08, 2009 9:47 am
Vigil wrote:KrAzY wrote:"canon didn't take too bad a notch"
well... except the whole premise of their mission.... "kill a prophet"
the spartans mission was to capture a prophet... if they KNEW where one was... INSIDE UNSC space... there would never have been a mission to kill the damned thing...
NVM prophets had not been seen before reach... and were a theoretical ideal that the spartans were going to stake all of their lives on.
also.. .the main characters hair would get him kicked out of any military if he had that while in uniform...
I understand where you were coming from, but that's from Fall of Reach, which also said that the Spartans didn't run into Elites until 2552. It's another Retcon. As for Capturing him, that plan most likely was created later, as if I recall the plan correctly they were going to use a Covenant ship to locate their homeworld and capture a Hierarch.
That Prophet was definately not Truth, Mercy or Regret, and was probably only a minister. They wouldn't have achieved much by capturing him.
The Hair was fucking stupid though.
well how about a SPARTAN being sent to work with ODST's?
spartans were trained to work alongside other spartans... and as far as I can tell from any of the GOOD books... they didn't work alone, or with rank and file troops unless absolutely nessacary....
or how about the fact that Cal's hair would take up more volume than the inside of the Mjolnir's helmet...
OR the random planet covered in ancient Japanese ruins?
theres so much wrong with this....that when I finally get my time machine working the creators of this peice of crap are going to be the first to die... followed shortly by Grame Devine
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Re: Halo: Legends 'The Babysitter' Review.
by CivBase Sun Nov 08, 2009 9:59 am
I didn't think it clashed too much with canon, but there were few problems.
My main issues were the hair and the part where the spartan yanked the drop pod out of the muck and tossed across the way. I can see pulling it out of the muck... but the tossing part was a bit overboard, even for a Spartan.
I don't mind the prophet thing so much because, as Vigil said, the clash was with Fall of Reach, and on top of that: It's ONI. They keep a lot of secrets, and the idea of prophets isn't exactly something every marine on the front line needs to know.
I didn't think much about the temples until you pointed that out, but I don't think that's a huge deal. I also have no problem with a Spartan dying after a blow to the forehead from a brute hammer. And a Spartan working with ODST backup to kill a prophet isn't that hard to believe. After all, it's easier to get four ODSTs to help than it is to get another Spartan.
That hair does bug me, though.... why/how would you keep hair like that when you wear a giant green helmet 90% of the time?
My main issues were the hair and the part where the spartan yanked the drop pod out of the muck and tossed across the way. I can see pulling it out of the muck... but the tossing part was a bit overboard, even for a Spartan.
I don't mind the prophet thing so much because, as Vigil said, the clash was with Fall of Reach, and on top of that: It's ONI. They keep a lot of secrets, and the idea of prophets isn't exactly something every marine on the front line needs to know.
I didn't think much about the temples until you pointed that out, but I don't think that's a huge deal. I also have no problem with a Spartan dying after a blow to the forehead from a brute hammer. And a Spartan working with ODST backup to kill a prophet isn't that hard to believe. After all, it's easier to get four ODSTs to help than it is to get another Spartan.
That hair does bug me, though.... why/how would you keep hair like that when you wear a giant green helmet 90% of the time?
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Re: Halo: Legends 'The Babysitter' Review.
by Vigil Sun Nov 08, 2009 10:03 am
KrAzY wrote:Vigil wrote:KrAzY wrote:"canon didn't take too bad a notch"
well... except the whole premise of their mission.... "kill a prophet"
the spartans mission was to capture a prophet... if they KNEW where one was... INSIDE UNSC space... there would never have been a mission to kill the damned thing...
NVM prophets had not been seen before reach... and were a theoretical ideal that the spartans were going to stake all of their lives on.
also.. .the main characters hair would get him kicked out of any military if he had that while in uniform...
I understand where you were coming from, but that's from Fall of Reach, which also said that the Spartans didn't run into Elites until 2552. It's another Retcon. As for Capturing him, that plan most likely was created later, as if I recall the plan correctly they were going to use a Covenant ship to locate their homeworld and capture a Hierarch.
That Prophet was definately not Truth, Mercy or Regret, and was probably only a minister. They wouldn't have achieved much by capturing him.
The Hair was fucking stupid though.
well how about a SPARTAN being sent to work with ODST's?
spartans were trained to work alongside other spartans... and as far as I can tell from any of the GOOD books... they didn't work alone, or with rank and file troops unless absolutely nessacary....
or how about the fact that Cal's hair would take up more volume than the inside of the Mjolnir's helmet...
OR the random planet covered in ancient Japanese ruins?
theres so much wrong with this....that when I finally get my time machine working the creators of this peice of crap are going to be the first to die... followed shortly by Grame Devine
John worked with Hundreds of marines during his career.
They were all career solider and many operations the Spartans undertook was to either with or supporting mainline UNSC forces. And that was established in the prologue of Fall of Reach.
Again, Cal's hair was fucking stupid.
The Japenese Architecture, which seem to be just thrown in was completely out of place and I agree with you completely there, but like I said in my review that because o the cultural background of the creators.
It wasn't another Halo Wars, but I wouldn't put it up with the best Halo Works like FoR or GoO. It's just about the same level as the Cole Protocol for me.
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Re: Halo: Legends 'The Babysitter' Review.
by Ascendant Justice Sun Nov 08, 2009 10:05 am
Unbefuckinglievable. Its saddening to see such a good series run into the ground like this...
KrAzY already explained almost everything that is wrong with it. And from the sound of it, that's only one episode.....
KrAzY already explained almost everything that is wrong with it. And from the sound of it, that's only one episode.....
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by CivBase Sun Nov 08, 2009 10:06 am
There are errors, but I expected worse. Of course, I expect MUCH worse in some of the ones to come.
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by KrAzY Sun Nov 08, 2009 10:06 am
except a spartan DIEING IS a problem.... ALL of the spartans are accounted for in Reach except for Grey team.... I take Reach as a higher authority than some shitty anime
and about ONI... the spartans were a goddamned family... if they asked ONE spartan to go on a mission... they would ahve been asking that spartan's ENTIRE team to go in that mission...
although it really doesn't fucking matter... as Spartans are being magically created for these new games and shit... the ones at harvest... the ones that are allowed to die in these animes
seriously... I don't know why I fucking argue with you guys about this shit any more... not only do you not know the Canon... but you enjoy this new shit that has come about from the Whoreing of a once good universe...
and about ONI... the spartans were a goddamned family... if they asked ONE spartan to go on a mission... they would ahve been asking that spartan's ENTIRE team to go in that mission...
although it really doesn't fucking matter... as Spartans are being magically created for these new games and shit... the ones at harvest... the ones that are allowed to die in these animes
seriously... I don't know why I fucking argue with you guys about this shit any more... not only do you not know the Canon... but you enjoy this new shit that has come about from the Whoreing of a once good universe...
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by Vigil Sun Nov 08, 2009 10:15 am
KrAzY wrote:except a spartan DIEING IS a problem.... ALL of the spartans are accounted for in Reach except for Grey team.... I take Reach as a higher authority than some shitty anime
and about ONI... the spartans were a goddamned family... if they asked ONE spartan to go on a mission... they would ahve been asking that spartan's ENTIRE team to go in that mission...
although it really doesn't fucking matter... as Spartans are being magically created for these new games and shit... the ones at harvest... the ones that are allowed to die in these animes
seriously... I don't know why I fucking argue with you guys about this shit any more... not only do you not know the Canon... but you enjoy this new shit that has come about from the Whoreing of a once good universe...
I never said it wasn't, but the problem is that has already been so badly fucked over by Halo Wars, Do I really need to go through it every time a Spartan dies now?
Spartans were capable of solo ops, but they were mainly sent in as a team.
I think I made it very clear that I DO know the canon. Fall of Reach is not the fucking gospel. It has been retconned, and I pointed out the two MIA Spartans to explain Cal's Death, even if it's not the best explanation.
They have had an annoying habit of creating Spartans from out of their ass, but so far most of then can just be about explained. (Except for Red Team and Spartan Group Omega. Seriously Fuck you ES)
I said it could of been worse, and I just fucking rated it next to The Cole Protocol. DO YOU FUCKING THINK I LIKED IT?
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by KrAzY Sun Nov 08, 2009 10:35 am
Fall of Reach has been rectoned by Halo Wars and Cole Protocol... not exactly sources that I agree to be canon
if parts of FoR are going to be used as canon... then they better as fuck use the whole thing as canon... you can't just recton part of a book because it is inconvenient for later games and keep the rest of the book intact.
anyways... I don't consider ANYTHING in Halo Wars or Cole Protocol to be canon... at most they are Fanfiction... and I don't consider any of this shit that is being whored to Japan's lowest form of entertainment to be canon either...
Halo, Halo 2, and Halo 3... with some flaws in the latter of the two... and the Nylund Books are all I accept as canon.... I'm not going to let the money grubbers at microsoft allow what was a solid story to become as incoherent as a taco salad
if parts of FoR are going to be used as canon... then they better as fuck use the whole thing as canon... you can't just recton part of a book because it is inconvenient for later games and keep the rest of the book intact.
anyways... I don't consider ANYTHING in Halo Wars or Cole Protocol to be canon... at most they are Fanfiction... and I don't consider any of this shit that is being whored to Japan's lowest form of entertainment to be canon either...
Halo, Halo 2, and Halo 3... with some flaws in the latter of the two... and the Nylund Books are all I accept as canon.... I'm not going to let the money grubbers at microsoft allow what was a solid story to become as incoherent as a taco salad
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Re: Halo: Legends 'The Babysitter' Review.
by Vigil Sun Nov 08, 2009 10:40 am
KrAzY wrote:Fall of Reach has been rectoned by Halo Wars and Cole Protocol... not exactly sources that I agree to be canon
if parts of FoR are going to be used as canon... then they better as fuck use the whole thing as canon... you can't just recton part of a book because it is inconvenient for later games and keep the rest of the book intact.
anyways... I don't consider ANYTHING in Halo Wars or Cole Protocol to be canon... at most they are Fanfiction... expensive fanfiction...
And Common sense. The likehood they wouldn't know what Sangheli were before 2552 is very minimal. The other stupid things they retconned like the number of Spartans, I agree with you completely.
Agreed.
I don't consider Halo Wars canon. Parts of the Cole Protocol could be, but most of it is pretty pointless.
I'm glad I'm leaving the series after Halo: Reach.
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by KrAzY Sun Nov 08, 2009 10:48 am
they KNEW about the Sangheli... but they hadn't FOUGHT them
in all likelyhood... they HAD fought them on earlier occasions... but lack of video evidence stopped them from being documented... but they certainly didn't fight brutes and elites on harvest... AFTER it had been glassed....
you know... glassing... the thing the fucing covenant use to make planets DEAD.... not inhospitable.... but to DESTROY the goddamned planet...
if all they did was scorch it a little.. .I don't think the UNSC would have worried about it quite as much as they did...
(not yelling at you there... yelling at the intolerable fallacies that occured in Halo Wars)
in all likelyhood... they HAD fought them on earlier occasions... but lack of video evidence stopped them from being documented... but they certainly didn't fight brutes and elites on harvest... AFTER it had been glassed....
you know... glassing... the thing the fucing covenant use to make planets DEAD.... not inhospitable.... but to DESTROY the goddamned planet...
if all they did was scorch it a little.. .I don't think the UNSC would have worried about it quite as much as they did...
(not yelling at you there... yelling at the intolerable fallacies that occured in Halo Wars)
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by Vigil Sun Nov 08, 2009 10:56 am
KrAzY wrote:they KNEW about the Sangheli... but they hadn't FOUGHT them
in all likelyhood... they HAD fought them on earlier occasions... but lack of video evidence stopped them from being documented... but they certainly didn't fight brutes and elites on harvest... AFTER it had been glassed....
you know... glassing... the thing the fucing covenant use to make planets DEAD.... not inhospitable.... but to DESTROY the goddamned planet...
if all they did was scorch it a little.. .I don't think the UNSC would have worried about it quite as much as they did...
(not yelling at you there... yelling at the intolerable fallacies that occured in Halo Wars)
Fair enough, it was hinted at in all of Reach, but I was never sure if they had actually really had engaged them.
Yeah that was pretty stupid.
Ah okay, I was just getting annoyed as you seemed to be saying I didn't know my canon, which would of really made me angry. Sure I'm know UNSC AI, but I do know my stuff.
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by Ascendant Justice Sun Nov 08, 2009 12:14 pm
Dare I bring this into the discussion?
What the fuck is that thing? I dont recall it being a UNSC vehicle that I have ever read about in any of the books.
What the fuck is that thing? I dont recall it being a UNSC vehicle that I have ever read about in any of the books.
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