Why no SSB clone

by kslidz Wed Jun 03, 2009 7:32 pm

Since the Nintendo 64 Microsoft Sony and some third party developer has had time to create a clone of ssb that would bring in millions but no one has.
How has this not happened yet.

by Gold Spartan Wed Jun 03, 2009 8:59 pm

There are not enough franchises under the different companies that can be called cartoony enough to be put into an SSB clone.

by kslidz Wed Jun 03, 2009 9:00 pm

they could make up characters
its not that hard

by **Angatar** Wed Jun 03, 2009 9:04 pm

The 360 is too badass for cartoony characters, and the PoS3 is a PoS, so nothing ~~good~~ would go there.

by **Lord Pheonix** Wed Jun 03, 2009 9:05 pm

No self respecting console would have it

So Wii did

by kslidz Wed Jun 03, 2009 9:09 pm

ssb is really fun and it sells extremely well and considering there has only been one game like it for almost ten years i am very perplexed

by KristallNacht Wed Jun 03, 2009 10:43 pm

kslidz wrote:they could make up characters
its not that hard

except playing with made up characters isn't the fun.

But really, no other companies have enough platformers or enough console mascots.

by kslidz Wed Jun 03, 2009 10:47 pm

except it would be fun because i never played SSB for the characters specially since the only games i had played when it came out were super mario 64 (and i kinda thought mario was a fag) and star fox which i didnt even know was in the game, i just thought the game looked cool
and more importantly it would sell

by **Angatar** Wed Jun 03, 2009 10:53 pm

kslidz wrote:and more importantly it would sell

I think I know who's growing up to work at Microsoft!

by kslidz Wed Jun 03, 2009 10:54 pm

Angatar wrote:
kslidz wrote:and more importantly it would sell
I think I know who's growing up to work at Microsoft!

lol

by Felix Thu Jun 04, 2009 6:23 am

Lord Pheonix wrote:No self respecting console would have it

So Wii did

I found that the wii controls were a bunch of bullshit and went back to the gamecube controller. Although, it was a fun game(not a game that I could play every day, but it had it's moments).

And the reasons why there are no SSB "clones" is because there aren't that many "classic"(who the fuck is Lucus?) characters for any other gaming company. I mean, Nintendo has been around a long time, they have many awesome characters that people love(Like Mario, Samus, Link etc) and been playing since they were kids.

However, this is not the same for many other counsol gamers. They are relitivly "new" to gaming and usually don't have the foundest clue for anything that happened more than five minutes ago.

And honestly, SSB was made for kids(the newest being made for kids and old people) because it appeals to them. It is fun to watch your favorite characters duke it out in a brawl to determine who is the best(not really, but it's fun to think).

With the "new" generation of counsol gamers, it needs to be "blood, blood, gore, death, decapitation, and shooting the crap out of something". They wouldn't like a fighting in a cartoony game with cartoony characters without big boobs.

Saying such a thing will sell is technically true. It would be the same as Halo Wars. It would only launch because of the name(or characters in this case) and once people play it, they will realize they hate it.

I think you're a spy for Microsoft kslidz...

by Cheese Thu Jun 04, 2009 6:36 am

Felix wrote:And honestly, SSB was made for kids(the newest being made for kids and old people) because it appeals to them.

Think not. SSB was targeted at the kids of the late 80s like myself who grew up with these characters and platform games (now 16-25). The only reason there's not blood and etc is because it would be weird and really out of place. It was the last act of Nintendo to actually remember their fans.

Lucas, i think, was a bloke from Mothersomething-that's-maybe-world, same as Ness. I think it only got released in Japan.

by Felix Thu Jun 04, 2009 6:42 am

Cheese wrote:
Felix wrote:And honestly, SSB was made for kids(the newest being made for kids and old people) because it appeals to them.

Think not. SSB was targeted at the kids of the late 80s like myself who grew up with these characters and platform games (now 16-25). The only reason there's not blood and etc is because it would be weird and really out of place. It was the last act of Nintendo to actually remember their fans.

Lucas, i think, was a bloke from Mothersomething-that's-maybe-world, same as Ness. I think it only got released in Japan.

That's what I meant. It was made for the kids of the generation of the good nintendo years.

The point was, "newer" gamers wouldn't like a game like that without boobs and/or shooting involved followed by blood.

by Cheese Thu Jun 04, 2009 6:58 am

Ahh.

Then I agree.

Samus is hot.

Just throwing it out there Razz

by KristallNacht Thu Jun 04, 2009 9:08 am

Felix wrote:
I found that the wii controls were a bunch of bullshit and went back to the gamecube controller.

I only play with Wiimote+nunchuk and I know a few others that do. Its far more conveniant and all the important buttons are given more attention than on the gamecubes cluttered controller.

by kslidz Thu Jun 04, 2009 9:26 am

GOd you guys are annoying
i want to play a SSN clone with original characters and im sure others do too
and halowars is fun and im not the only one who thinks so
will you all quit saying the same thing and quit being stupid

and most companies would kill for numbers like halowars which again reinforces my point why hasnt a company made a game like that

by Felix Thu Jun 04, 2009 11:22 am

KristallNacht wrote:
Felix wrote:
I found that the wii controls were a bunch of bullshit and went back to the gamecube controller.

I only play with Wiimote+nunchuk and I know a few others that do. Its far more conveniant and all the important buttons are given more attention than on the gamecubes cluttered controller.

Yes, but when more people use the gamecube controller than the Wii controller, maybe somethings wrong with the controls...

by Cheese Thu Jun 04, 2009 11:42 am

I'm with Felix. I <3 the Gamecube controls.

by Felix Thu Jun 04, 2009 12:17 pm

kslidz wrote:GOd you guys are annoying
I know you are but what am I?

i want to play a SSN clone with original characters and im sure others do too
Well, SSB was orginal already... Making a "clone" as you say wouldn't be orginal at all

and halowars is fun and im not the only one who thinks so
it is fun like beating your head against the wall is fun. You enjoy it at first, but it later becomes a pain and you wonder why you were even doing it in the first place

will you all quit saying the same thing and quit being stupid
will you quit saying the same thing? Honestly, you're the one who keeps spitting out the same thing over and over again.

and most companies would kill for numbers like halowars which again reinforces my point why hasnt a company made a game like that
[b]It's what we call a "sellout". Meaning, they don't whether it fits or goes well with what the fanbase wanted or not, they do it to get a quick buck. The only reason Halo Wars sold so well was because of it's name. If you want more companies to put "halo" in there name, they I have the right to call you a "sellout"

by **BBJynne** Thu Jun 04, 2009 12:47 pm

I guess I'm not a "newer" gamer then

I loved SSB when I've played it "not very often" not for the characters, but for the game style

and blood, while vital in real life, isn't quite so important in games, and I wish that developers would go away from the "realism" of brown and grey (even the fucking sky seems to be grey half the time, or else has been toned down)

as for the actual topic:
I'd play an SSB clone if it was on Xbox because I love that controller so much. It's definitely my favorite.

by Cheese Thu Jun 04, 2009 1:23 pm

Interesting. I dont really think SSB would work as well (as a gamecube one) on an xbox.

I think that's because the control scheme was set up specifically for smash though tbf. All the nair fair dair stuff.

by Rasq'uire'laskar Thu Jun 04, 2009 10:58 pm

I don't know what kind of gamer I am.

I don't NEED Gore, Blood, and Boobs in my games. I need story and lack of Nintendo cartooniness.

I also hate fighting games like SSB and Tekkan, and racing games in general. So pointless.

by Ukurse Fri Jun 05, 2009 1:54 am

All Nintendo games are over. They gave up on making actually good game ages ago.
The only reason they still sell is because they have millions of people that will buy anything they buy.
Look at galaxy, it was total shit compared to their old stuff, and there old stuff was just meh to begin with. But people still bought it.
So based on that theory, they will sell millions if they make a remake on game even if they are just secretly scamming people out of their moneyz.

by Felix Fri Jun 05, 2009 6:26 am

Rasq'uire'laskar wrote:I don't know what kind of gamer I am.

I don't NEED Gore, Blood, and Boobs in my games. I need story and lack of Nintendo cartooniness.

I also hate fighting games like SSB and Tekkan, and racing games in general. So pointless.

I simply said the newer gamers, who are relatively new to gaming in general like games with gore, blood, and boobs, not needed them.

I actually had a confersation with a person who said he doesn't like to read because shooting stuff is more fun.

Nintendo cartooniness is what nintendo does. They were and are a company for kids(not so much recently though).

I'm not so much of a fighting fan either, but SSB was an enjoyable game for the short time it lasted.

by Cheese Fri Jun 05, 2009 9:31 am

Well back in the days graphical limitations only allowed cartooniness. It's just that they've lasted so long is the reason why they haven't changed.

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