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Post by Gold Spartan Sat Dec 27, 2008 11:00 pm

This thread is to discuss the Epic rpgs the diablo series games are.
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Post by capn qwerty Sun Dec 28, 2008 8:55 am

My friend has...or had...the first 2, and I got to see him play it a few times.

And it looked awesome Very Happy Alas, my comp is to crappy to run anything with even remotly modern graphics.
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Post by Gold Spartan Sun Dec 28, 2008 12:43 pm

Diablo was made about 15 years ago. (random guess.) I have all of them but Diablo III (Not sure if it's out yet.) But still, if you can run starcraft, you can run the original Diablo(The best rpg I've EVER played. It pwns Oblivion, KOTR, Fallout 3, and Mass Effect. It's the only rpg blizzard has gotten right.)
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Post by PiEdude Sun Dec 28, 2008 1:01 pm

Gold Spartan5 wrote:It pwns Oblivion, KOTR, Fallout 3, and Mass Effect. It's the only rpg blizzard has gotten right.

This is the point in your post where I stopped agreeing with you.

Diablo I and II can't be compared to those games.
I've played Diablo II and all of the games you listed.

They're all better than Diablo.
The Diablo series is great, but it's most recent game is 8 years old. So obviously it can't compete with newer innovtion until Diablo III comes out.
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Post by Kasrkin Seath Sun Dec 28, 2008 3:44 pm

Diablo does not get anywhere near competing with other RPG's
I dont even think you can classify Diablo games as RPG's...

They are more of dungeon crawlers with a bit of story on the side.
Not to say that they are not good... they are awesome games
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Post by JB Sun Dec 28, 2008 7:59 pm

i have to agree with seath theyre fun to play but theres no real story to em u run through the dungeons murder 1000's of monsters and kill the devil and his bro's other than that its just like every bland FPS except u see ur person from the sky and ur carrying a sword, axe or, or bow
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Post by Gold Spartan Sun Dec 28, 2008 8:16 pm

Still think it's better than the games I listed. But yeah, I cant really call it an rpg. It's still the only non-rts blizzard got right.
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Post by Kasrkin Seath Sun Dec 28, 2008 8:31 pm

It doesn't really pwn any of the other games either. Its a time killer game, made to eat up the extra hour or two you have every day.
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Post by Gold Spartan Sun Dec 28, 2008 9:42 pm

You see, I like this series do to the fact it's one of the few games in the genre that any good. But yeah, all the other listed games are meant to eat 5 hours of ur day everyday. Current KOTR 2 game. 4 hours, 17 minutes, STILL on the Telos Station! Mad
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Post by capn qwerty Mon Dec 29, 2008 4:06 pm

KoTOR II is a far cry from the first one. Story-wise anyway.
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Post by Onyxknight Mon Dec 29, 2008 4:37 pm

>.> i have to agree diablo to is good but it can not be called an RPG maybe it was back in the day but not now as of it being better than other games i disagree with you since all you really do is goin around and kill 1000s of monsters to get these items and such but it really has only a strewn together story for no other purpose to beat the game, and then again you can do that a million times...
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Post by Gold Spartan Mon Dec 29, 2008 10:42 pm

you see, Diablo is one of the few games that ACTUALLY was done right for it's genre. Which is why I think it's better than the listed games. For there are many great rpgs. But there isnt enough epic dungeon-exploration, kill 1000s of monsters games out there.(Made it up to make a point. Dont really know what genre you'd put it in.)
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Post by Toaster Mon Dec 29, 2008 11:56 pm

Gold wrote:It pwns Oblivion


Alright

KOTR

Ok

Fallout 3

If you say so...

and Mass Effect


Oh Hell NO! You did NOT just call a game better than Mass Effect! Evil or Very Mad
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Post by MrX Tue Dec 30, 2008 7:30 am

GOLD

HOW FUKIN DARE U CALL MY SWEEEATEST OBLIVIONZ!!!!!!!

OH MEH GEEE

I BET YOU HAVNT EVEN PLAYED OBLIVION COZ DIABLO IS A SHIT GAME MADE FROM PIXELS !!!!!!!
Evil or Very Mad
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Post by capn qwerty Tue Dec 30, 2008 11:34 am

Bilco, every game consists of pixels.
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Post by MrX Tue Dec 30, 2008 11:41 am

capn qwerty wrote:Bilco, every game consists of pixels.

.............

you know what i mean dont be a smart arse............

in other words diablo looks like it was drawn on paint
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Post by capn qwerty Tue Dec 30, 2008 11:57 am

I knew what you meant, I was just derailing your rant.
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Post by MrX Tue Dec 30, 2008 12:39 pm

obviously failed........
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Post by Toaster Tue Dec 30, 2008 1:14 pm

Bilco wrote:HOW FUKIN DARE U CALL MY SWEEEATEST OBLIVIONZ!!!!!!!

I'm not the biggest fan of Oblivion, but NOTHING beats this:
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Post by Onyxknight Tue Dec 30, 2008 5:10 pm

ReconToaster wrote:
Bilco wrote:HOW FUKIN DARE U CALL MY SWEEEATEST OBLIVIONZ!!!!!!!

I'm not the biggest fan of Oblivion, but NOTHING beats this:
Mass Effect does Razz
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Post by MrX Tue Dec 30, 2008 6:07 pm

mass effect is a great game but its just gets boring
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Post by Rasq'uire'laskar Tue Dec 30, 2008 9:46 pm

*Laughs.
I have yet to play Oblivion, and I can't remember what the Diablos are like, but I have to say this.
I hate RPGs.

For one reason, all the storylines are the same.

"Congratulations! You, yes, YOU, have been selected and made unique because of an arcane prophecy/family bloodlines/your mentor was killed/your brother or dad was killed/the random alignment of the Sun, Venus, Mars, and the left wart on your mother's nose. Please check one."

"You will now start out with a garden rake and fight your way against all manner of cliched and overused medieval characters, conveniently fighting progressively stronger enemies in progressively greater numbers and encountering progressively stronger weapons and spells in progressively more expensive shops, becoming stronger in hours, when it takes other, more dedicated soldiers years to become as good as you did."

"You will meet up with a group of people, who will conveniently level up as fast as you do, and then you will all take on the Archvillian, who leveled a 100,000-man army of elves in the opening cutscene. Or you will kill the Dark Priests who are about to resurrect the Dark Lord Tracknor from his thousand-year slumber, whilst the rest of the world has grown complacent and has forgotten him. But, of course, you will arrive thirty-two seconds too late, and you will have to fight him while he is still weak, and destroy the Stones of Power which are regenerating his health, or attack him when his PWNZER Power has drained his invincibility ability."

"Stand. Fight. Hack and slash. May your garden rake serve you well, until you find that wooden dagger that grants +2 health."

"And remember to say hi to the cat-people, who never fail to crop up in EVERY SINGLE RPG."


Seriously, folks. At least 95% of all RPGs fall into this category, and an additional 4% share similar characteristics. Surely, there have been new features, like pets or powers, or First Person View or co-op, but don't look for innovation in the typical RPG.

I hear Mass Effect is better, but it is also quite different from the common RPG. After all, it's a shooter, not a turn-based combat, right?
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Post by PiEdude Tue Dec 30, 2008 10:15 pm

Rasq'uire'laskar wrote:*Laughs.
I have yet to play Oblivion, and I can't remember what the Diablos are like, but I have to say this.
I hate RPGs.

For one reason, all the storylines are the same.

"Congratulations! You, yes, YOU, have been selected and made unique because of an arcane prophecy/family bloodlines/your mentor was killed/your brother or dad was killed/the random alignment of the Sun, Venus, Mars, and the left wart on your mother's nose. Please check one."

"You will now start out with a garden rake and fight your way against all manner of cliched and overused medieval characters, conveniently fighting progressively stronger enemies in progressively greater numbers and encountering progressively stronger weapons and spells in progressively more expensive shops, becoming stronger in hours, when it takes other, more dedicated soldiers years to become as good as you did."

"You will meet up with a group of people, who will conveniently level up as fast as you do, and then you will all take on the Archvillian, who leveled a 100,000-man army of elves in the opening cutscene. Or you will kill the Dark Priests who are about to resurrect the Dark Lord Tracknor from his thousand-year slumber, whilst the rest of the world has grown complacent and has forgotten him. But, of course, you will arrive thirty-two seconds too late, and you will have to fight him while he is still weak, and destroy the Stones of Power which are regenerating his health, or attack him when his PWNZER Power has drained his invincibility ability."

"Stand. Fight. Hack and slash. May your garden rake serve you well, until you find that wooden dagger that grants +2 health."

"And remember to say hi to the cat-people, who never fail to crop up in EVERY SINGLE RPG."


Seriously, folks. At least 95% of all RPGs fall into this category, and an additional 4% share similar characteristics. Surely, there have been new features, like pets or powers, or First Person View or co-op, but don't look for innovation in the typical RPG.

I hear Mass Effect is better, but it is also quite different from the common RPG. After all, it's a shooter, not a turn-based combat, right?
There are no cat people in Mass Effect.
There are no cat people in Fallout 3.
There are no cat people in KOTOR II.
There are no cat people in Fable.
There are no cat people in Fable II.
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Post by Kasrkin Seath Wed Dec 31, 2008 9:39 am

Most RPG's do fall into the kind of thing Rasq' said... I like the Elder Scrolls series(particularly Morrowind) because, while there is a main quest which is pretty typical, you dont even have to do it and can wander the world at your lesiure(sp?).

Like in Morrowind, you dont even really start the main quest at the begining, you are just told to go meet some guy, and still not really startit(he tells you to go join a guild and what-not). Really, you can just skip the main quest and look around. Shops stay static for the most part, as you level up they will stay the same, which is the same with most monsters and NPC's.

Oblivion is similar, but they made the shops and monsters level up with you, which was kind of gay. Why would a bandit be wielding the best mundane weapon and have the best mundane armor?
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Post by BBJynne Wed Dec 31, 2008 10:14 am

Kasrkin Seath wrote:Oblivion is similar, but they made the shops and monsters level up with you, which was kind of gay. Why would a bandit be wielding the best mundane weapon and have the best mundane armor?

but that takes away all the fun of being able to kill stuff in one hit

and running faster than the wind

and being able to buy anything in the entire game but not needing to (except if something looks cool on your char) because you have the best stuff already

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