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Post by KristallNacht on Tue Jun 07, 2011 9:24 pm

i have no idea what you're talking about
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Post by Rasq'uire'laskar on Tue Jun 07, 2011 9:28 pm

Rotaretilbo wrote:I haven't seen any of the trailers yet, because I've been too busy waiting in line for TOR, but from my understanding, things like Covenant ships are now blue. That was not the case in Halo: Reach, so I'm not buying this as a graphics update.
To me, Covenant ships have always been weird. I mean, look at H3! Covenant Separatists repainted their ships a nice chromy hue in the space of a week!

Curiously, do you think that shields might give ships a different tint of color? The shields may be too thin on infantry to be noticeable, but maybe with thicker shields...

Rotaretilbo wrote:To my knowledge, this debate is regarding the Covenant in Halo: Combat Evolved Anniversary. But, as I said, I've not had a chance to watch the trailer, so I can't really be the judge.

However, given past indiscretions of 343, I would be entirely unsurprised if they changed something as iconic as the color of the Covenant for no reason whatsoever.
Hey, man, believe it when you see it. For now, give them the benefit of the doubt.

KristallNacht wrote:The biggest reason why they shouldn't change the Marines to Army (aside from the fact I'm a Marine) is that it made sense for Marines to be there. Not so much the Army. It was a ship, with a infantry force comprised almost entirely for the purpose of defending itself and attacking other ships. That is the Marine Corps main role, historically, and in many many sci fi stories.
Just out of curiosity, what if some Army troopers defending the Shipbreaking Yards were recalled into the PoA? Better than leaving them there to die...
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Post by KristallNacht on Tue Jun 07, 2011 9:30 pm

Rasq'uire'laskar wrote:
Just out of curiosity, what if some Army troopers defending the Shipbreaking Yards were recalled into the PoA? Better than leaving them there to die...

Possible, but the number of survivors in such a scenario would be few.
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Post by Ringleader on Tue Jun 07, 2011 9:34 pm

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Ringleader wrote:Blue vs Purple - Page 4 300px-Marine

Blue vs Purple - Page 4 Halo-Reach-Marine-151x300
Someone couldn't tell the difference between these?

is this reference to the Halo Marines and Halo Army looking the same?

because using the two from the same game, like this:

Blue vs Purple - Page 4 640px-Unscmarine_sniper

Blue vs Purple - Page 4 270px-Halo_Reach_-_UNSC_Army_Infantryman_%28Standing%29

now can you easily tell which is which?

do you even happen to know what missions have Army Troopers and which have Marines?
Well, no missions in Reach have Marines in them according to this, I mean, did you just Google "Halo Marine" and pick the one that clearly looks like an army trooper?

That's even worse if they actually did go back and change the appearance of the marines, but I wouldn't put it past 343 now, because no one seems to care or be able to tell the difference between this:
Blue vs Purple - Page 4 Halo_Reach_-_UNSC_Army_Infantryman_(Standing)
And this:
Blue vs Purple - Page 4 MarineArmoredUniform
I mean, if you're actually seriously saying that, then it's pretty obvious your blowing smoke. Let me guess, the sun and the moon also look the same, the're both round after all. All humans look the same too, 1 head, 2 arms, 2 hands, 2 feet, they're practically identical.
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Post by Rasq'uire'laskar on Tue Jun 07, 2011 9:44 pm

Ringleader wrote:Well, no missions in Reach have Marines in them according to this, I mean, did you just Google "Halo Marine" and pick the one that clearly looks like an army trooper?
Wrong. Using the same source (that very page, and the Marine page) the Marines were sighted at the shipbreaking yards and on LNOS.

Ringleader wrote:That's even worse if they actually did go back and change the appearance of the marines, but I wouldn't put it past 343 now, because no one seems to care or be able to tell the difference between this:
You're the only one who sees a significant difference.
Hey, KrAzY? Rot? What do you guys think?
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Post by KristallNacht on Tue Jun 07, 2011 9:45 pm

I used Halopedian.

and there are Marines since Carter is talking to a Corporal in Winter Contingency and clearly says "We know, Marine"
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Post by Ringleader on Tue Jun 07, 2011 9:47 pm

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Ringleader wrote:Well, no missions in Reach have Marines in them according to this, I mean, did you just Google "Halo Marine" and pick the one that clearly looks like an army trooper?
Wrong. Using the same source (that very page, and the Marine page) the Marines were sighted at the shipbreaking yards and on LNOS.
So they painted 'MARINES' on their pauldrons, oh. Then it is as I've said, "even worse".
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Post by Nocbl2 on Tue Jun 07, 2011 9:54 pm

Ring, why can't you understand that it really doesn't matter? Honestly, does it really make a difference in the story if Marines look a little different or something? Does the Arbiter die? Is Halo never found?
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Post by TNine on Tue Jun 07, 2011 9:58 pm

Can't really tell what's so different about the armor, to be honest. The animation is too screwy to make any judgements anyway.
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Post by KrAzY on Tue Jun 07, 2011 10:04 pm

honestly I see them as pretty much identical but with major graphical overhaul.... the Marine armor from halo CE looked like a person with rusty bits of metal strapped to their body, so an actual military uniform looks much better in my book.... the shapes are pretty much the same, and the main part of the armor that sticks out as identifiable to me, the helmet, is the same shape.


there is also HUGE variance in any military.... and the UNSC is MUCH more expansive than any military we have on our own planet.
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Post by Gold Spartan on Tue Jun 07, 2011 10:06 pm

why in the hell is this at 80+ serious posts?
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Post by dragoon9105 on Tue Jun 07, 2011 10:20 pm

Becuase Ring>Logic, Simple formula Razz

Blue vs Purple - Page 4 108978_marine-600

Theres your comparison

Notice how every single marine in every game looks diffrent, and better than the last, its called progress, say it with me now! Progress
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Post by Ringleader on Tue Jun 07, 2011 10:25 pm

Nocbl2 wrote:Ring, why can't you understand that it really doesn't matter? Honestly, does it really make a difference in the story if Marines look a little different or something? Does the Arbiter die? Is Halo never found?
Well, because it's sets a precedent by which 343 can make frivolous unnecessary alternations for no reason and the players not say anything at all except "AMAZING". That in itself is the problem, honestly I don't care as much as I probably sound like I do, but the idea that they can just change things in other people's work for no good reason when all it really does is annoy the small fraction of players that do care about things like aesthetic detail continuity and story continuity. I mean, you said it yourself, it's not like the Halo isn't lost by it, so what's it good for BUT to alienate that one group?
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Post by CivBase on Tue Jun 07, 2011 10:42 pm

dragoon9105 wrote:Becuase Ring>Logic, Simple formula Razz

Blue vs Purple - Page 4 108978_marine-600

Theres your comparison

Notice how every single marine in every game looks diffrent, and better than the last, its called progress, say it with me now! Progress
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Post by Rasq'uire'laskar on Tue Jun 07, 2011 10:44 pm

KrAzY wrote:honestly I see them as pretty much identical but with major graphical overhaul.... the Marine armor from halo CE looked like a person with rusty bits of metal strapped to their body, so an actual military uniform looks much better in my book.... the shapes are pretty much the same, and the main part of the armor that sticks out as identifiable to me, the helmet, is the same shape.


there is also HUGE variance in any military.... and the UNSC is MUCH more expansive than any military we have on our own planet.
Thank you. I couldn't agree more!
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Post by Ringleader on Tue Jun 07, 2011 10:45 pm

dragoon9105 wrote:Becuase Ring>Logic, Simple formula Razz

Blue vs Purple - Page 4 108978_marine-600

Theres your comparison

Notice how every single marine in every game looks diffrent, and better than the last, its called progress, say it with me now! Progress
Lol, the original picture from Bungie pretty clearly makes the distinction between Marines and Troopers in the image name 'Marine/Trooper Evolution, emphasis on the Marine SLASH Trooper part:

Blue vs Purple - Page 4 Marine_Comparisons

So who are the odd men out in this picture, the two that are wearing fatigues and Trooper armor? Let me guess, for the sake of your position, not the leftmost and rightmost suits...

I mean, according to Bungie:
Blue vs Purple - Page 4 ReachConcept_SoldierVariant
This IS an Army Trooper, and NOT a marine.
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Post by dragoon9105 on Tue Jun 07, 2011 10:50 pm

The second picture isn't in the comparison good sir, i believe i have never seen such an image in game.


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Post by Ringleader on Tue Jun 07, 2011 11:33 pm

Ah, what?
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Post by KristallNacht on Wed Jun 08, 2011 2:16 am

dragoon9105 wrote:Becuase Ring>Logic, Simple formula Razz

Blue vs Purple - Page 4 108978_marine-600

Theres your comparison

Notice how every single marine in every game looks diffrent, and better than the last, its called progress, say it with me now! Progress

except that last one is Army....

I'm getting confused....are we arguing about the fact that halo reach styled Marines are showing up in CE, or that they are replacing all the OG Marines with Reach Army Troopers?
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Post by dragoon9105 on Wed Jun 08, 2011 2:31 am

The first one i think, That they are using Reach UNSC personel for the Halo CE remake, Of course the thing that doesnt add up as they will look like the original marines in the original graphics mode meaning theres really no point in complaining about it.
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Post by KristallNacht on Wed Jun 08, 2011 2:50 am

well are they going to be Marines or Army? That's a more significant change.
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Post by RX on Wed Jun 08, 2011 5:36 am

That'd be a real issue, since I don't get what the army would do on a ship instead of the marines.
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Post by Rotaretilbo on Wed Jun 08, 2011 1:03 pm

I think that Ring is upset that the Marines look different in Anniversary now. Might I point out that this is the thread specifically for the argument of blue vs purple? Please take useless debates about whether updating a uniform to be more detailed is good or bad to the Halo Anniversary thread.

As for blue vs purple, I'm serious. I saw the trailers, and I didn't see what people were talking about. Where are there Covenant who are blue when they should be purple?

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Post by Rasq'uire'laskar on Wed Jun 08, 2011 1:13 pm

Rotaretilbo wrote:As for blue vs purple, I'm serious. I saw the trailers, and I didn't see what people were talking about. Where are there Covenant who are blue when they should be purple?
I honestly don't know. It came out of nowhere, I've seen it pop up on HBO, and I have yet to see a source.

If it's from a Kotaku or IGN article, I'm going to hit the roof.
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Post by Angatar on Wed Jun 08, 2011 2:01 pm

I'm beginning to think that RL is just trolling us.

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