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Post by Nocbl2 on Wed May 19, 2010 9:04 pm

I just came back from hockey, and was having a very... interesting... conversation with my mom. Subject? Getting past the edge of the universe. Conclusion? You can never get past the edge of the universe because you are PART of the universe. So, if you get past the edge of the 'universe', you're just creating an island of existence instead of getting past the edge. That means, theoretically, to get past the edge of the universe, you have to become not part of the universe. Yeah. Pretty crazy. (Unless you already figured this whole thing out)
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Post by KrAzY on Wed May 19, 2010 10:22 pm

this is obvious
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Post by Ukurse on Thu May 20, 2010 2:18 am

Nocbl2 wrote:I just came back from hockey, and was having a very... interesting... conversation with my mom. Subject? Getting past the edge of the universe. Conclusion? You can never get past the edge of the universe because you are PART of the universe. So, if you get past the edge of the 'universe', you're just creating an island of existence instead of getting past the edge. That means, theoretically, to get past the edge of the universe, you have to become not part of the universe. Yeah. Pretty crazy. (Unless you already figured this whole thing out)

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Post by Rotaretilbo on Thu May 20, 2010 2:41 am

Assuming there is an edge of the universe, and this edge could be reached, it would stand to reason that anything that could be called the edge of the universe would not be something that is crossable.

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Post by laxspartan007 on Thu May 20, 2010 2:29 pm

Rotaretilbo wrote:Assuming there is an edge of the universe, and this edge could be reached, it would stand to reason that anything that could be called the edge of the universe would not be something that is crossable.
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Post by TNine on Thu May 20, 2010 2:58 pm

The easiest way to become not part of the universe would be to leave it? So if you need to not become part of the universe in order to leave it, wouldn't it just be getting out of the universe making you not part of the universe?

The better question would be, could you get back?
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Post by Lord Pheonix on Thu May 20, 2010 3:06 pm

TNine wrote:The easiest way to become not part of the universe would be to leave it? So if you need to not become part of the universe in order to leave it, wouldn't it just be getting out of the universe making you not part of the universe?

The better question would be, could you get back?


I do not consider this a better question at all.

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Post by TNine on Thu May 20, 2010 4:02 pm

Lord Pheonix wrote:
TNine wrote:The easiest way to become not part of the universe would be to leave it? So if you need to not become part of the universe in order to leave it, wouldn't it just be getting out of the universe making you not part of the universe?

The better question would be, could you get back?


I do not consider this a better question at all.
Do you have an answer?
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Post by BBJynne on Thu May 20, 2010 5:21 pm

The better question would be, why did you leave in the first place? There isn't anything interesting in voids.

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Post by Cheese on Thu May 20, 2010 5:42 pm

In Oblivion there are void salts. They're pretty good.

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Post by PiEdude on Thu May 20, 2010 6:18 pm

Achieving the Zen, FTW!
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Post by Lord Pheonix on Thu May 20, 2010 7:11 pm

TNine wrote:
Lord Pheonix wrote:
TNine wrote:The easiest way to become not part of the universe would be to leave it? So if you need to not become part of the universe in order to leave it, wouldn't it just be getting out of the universe making you not part of the universe?

The better question would be, could you get back?


I do not consider this a better question at all.
Do you have an answer?


Yes but it is not something that Minions need worry themselves with.

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Post by MrX on Fri May 21, 2010 11:17 am

there is no edge its just a vast space of infinite... universe is universal... simple?
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Post by Vigil on Fri May 21, 2010 11:23 am

The Universe is still expanding, so what was the edge today would be completely different by the time you got there, an even with FTL it would take millenia.

So in practical terms it's pretty much inifinite.

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Post by CivBase on Fri May 21, 2010 10:16 pm

Rotaretilbo wrote:Assuming there is an edge of the universe, and this edge could be reached, it would stand to reason that anything that could be called the edge of the universe would not be something that is crossable.
There is, actually. I don't know all the specifics, but they have received significant amounts of energy from the edge and it all matches with some theory about the edge of the universe or something. Idk how it works, but I know they've found it (or, at least, they believe they have).

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Post by KrAzY on Fri May 21, 2010 10:34 pm

you can not leave something that is all encompassing... if you went farther than anything had ever gone before... then the new edge of the universe is where you are at... you havn't left... you've only expanded it
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Post by CivBase on Fri May 21, 2010 10:48 pm

But that's just it... it's not infinite.

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Post by Nocbl2 on Fri May 21, 2010 11:29 pm

KrAzY wrote:you can not leave something that is all encompassing... if you went farther than anything had ever gone before... then the new edge of the universe is where you are at... you havn't left... you've only expanded it
Exactly what I was trying to point out.
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Post by KrAzY on Fri May 21, 2010 11:32 pm

CivBase wrote:But that's just it... it's not infinite.


a universe is everything that exsists

what you are talking about is the "known universe" ... technically speaking it is impossible to exit something that encompasses everything that exsists


even if there were "parallel universes" then technically none of those are a universe any more, and the space/time holding the parallel universes is now considered the universe



it doesn't matter anyways, it is impossible to go faster than light, which has already had an indeterminate amount of time's head start toward the edges of the known universe
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