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Post by Vigil on Sat Jan 02, 2010 9:20 am

Halo Legends ‘Origins’ Part 1 Review.

Here we are again, for the final preview of Halo Legends, this one Origins, chronicling the history of the haloverse. You know the deal by now, massive spoilers ahead.
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Our story starts after the conclusion of Halo 3, as we zoom in and enter the rear end of Forward unto Dawn. Cortana starts narrating about how when she was born 7 years ago she had access to all the sum of human knowledge which she processed and understood in 2 hours. She explains how she now knows much more, and that she now realises John’s role in the universe and how he came to be here. She thinks about how war has continued throughout human history during our evolution, and then thinks back to the Forerunners. During this she flickers from blue to red, possibly showing her growing rampancy.

We then zoom in on a Forerunner planet, 100,000 years ago as a meteor crashes into the planet, introducing the Forerunners to the flood. We see sentinels and other machines move to the crash site, and we see a proto-Gravemind (at least I think it is it’s very strange.) Cortana muses that they were too slow to act, despite their technology and intelligence as the Flood spreads quickly across the planet, creating new creatures and hundreds of infection forms and flood spores. Because of this the Flood had become more and more intelligent, becoming stronger and more able to combat the Forerunners.

We then see the Forerunners themselves. They are wearing some kind of power armour, and look like the bird costumes from some old Japanese cartoon I vaguely recall seeing at some point (I wish I knew what it was called, but I have no clue what it is.) Anywho, we see the Forerunner ships from Halo Wars take off, which large sentinels take up position around the Flood hive. Cortana explains that they were noble brave people, who believed in justice and sought to sterilise the infection. The Sentinels then fire causing a large explosion visible from space, as it then pans to 7 small ships with a large ship in the centre. They them form a ring of energy that then feeds inward to the largest ship, where the energy then charges and fires a massive beam into space, destroying the ship debris in orbit, which is covered in flood growth.

We then see five Forerunners teleport in, and walk towards the remains of the Flood hive. They activate the weapons at their sides, in the same fashion an energy sword would be activated and take aim. As the Flood approaches them, they all fire at once, and their energy beams lace into one and form a large wave that wipes out everything in front of them. They move up on another Flood Growth and fire on, but are eventually overwhelmed and consumed.

Realising defeat was inevitable they decided to create the rings. We see massive Flood growth, and we see Flood infected ships leave the planet, and cut to the Gravemind, as it has no completely formed. We then see the Ark and all seven rings in a line. The Ark creates a portal and each one enters one after another, and are teleported across the galaxy. We see one at Eayn, Doisac and Sanghelios, with primitive Jackals, Brutes and Elites staring up at them. We then cut to a keyship descending to the portal on Earth with cave men watching them. We then see the control room on the Ark and them activating the rings. Cortana explains about what they do and why they were built, all the stuff we all know well.

The rings then fire, creating a massive wave of energy, which wipes out all organic life it, touches wiping the Flood clean. But from the ashes, Cortana explains that the Forerunners catalogued, stored and protected samples of populations of sentient life. Genetic material, embryos, even living specimens. They then send these samples back to their home planets in keyships, which then repopulate the galaxy. We see Grunts, Elites and humans. Cortana then explains that the Forerunners were gone, and that their sacrifice was so that the other species could reclaim the galaxy, their final gift to them.

It then cuts out to the Forerunner planet then cuts to black.
This one was pretty hard to judge, as it was basically just going over the history of the Forerunners, which is very well known and explained. It wasn’t as bad as the Duel, but it wasn’t anything that special. I didn’t really like the look of the Forerunners, and I still think we shouldn’t have seen them, power armour or no. Check it out if you want, but to be honest, you’re not going to learn anything new here.

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Post by Felix on Sat Jan 02, 2010 9:26 am

Sweet, forgot it was Saturday. Will Watch before I read.

Saw, was interesting, and wasn't that bad.
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Post by Ringleader on Sat Jan 02, 2010 9:42 am

Where can I watch it, not on Halo Waypoint?
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Post by Vigil on Sat Jan 02, 2010 9:46 am

Youtube will probably have it by now.

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Post by PiEdude on Sat Jan 02, 2010 9:52 am

I actually didn't think this one was that bad.

It was how it should be, Bungie's story, but somebody else's art.
Unfortunately, it's the art of the Japs, but still.

I hate it because it's anime, but they didn't overtly rape canon this time, so I'm okay with it.
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Post by Felix on Sat Jan 02, 2010 10:04 am

Pretty interesting weapons I must say though. And the part that always confuses me is, if they document every other species population, and DNA, and stuff, why not have theirs as well?
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Post by Vigil on Sat Jan 02, 2010 10:10 am

The only question I had with it was, I there was a ring above Doisac, Sangheilos and Eayn, why didn't the Covenant find them centuries before they ecountered us?

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Post by kslidz on Sat Jan 02, 2010 11:56 am

why dont they use cyclops'?!?!?

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Post by Rasq'uire'laskar on Sat Jan 02, 2010 3:54 pm

Vigil wrote:The only question I had with it was, I there was a ring above Doisac, Sangheilos and Eayn, why didn't the Covenant find them centuries before they ecountered us?
I don't think that the Rings STAYED there, but I do find it troubling...

Overall, not bad, 100 times better than the others, but the drawing still sucked.
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Post by Vigil on Sat Jan 02, 2010 4:22 pm

Agreed.

The drawing was typical to this genre. I tolerate it, but luckily this was the last preview.

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Post by Vtrooper on Sat Jan 02, 2010 5:15 pm

well i think that they gave Elites, Brutes and Jackels new worlds, its seems probible
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Post by Ringleader on Sat Jan 02, 2010 7:00 pm

Aw man, this was the lamest thing I have ever seen...


What was the big idea NOT making humans Forerunners? Did no one else see the potential story arc completion here? I mean, was it not hinted enough in all the games and books?! (until recently of course, whenever anyone can say some retarded crap and it becomes galvanized into the story). But really now, the story is rapidly losing its flare with these morons at 343 and ES, just, DESTROYING any hint of mystery and interest in the the Halo Universe.

and so the Forerunners cataloged and preserved every sentient species in the entire galaxy... EXCEPT FOR THEMSELVES!!!... The travesties going on here, to what used to be a good story are just, astronomically big.

If the Halo's were right above all the inhabited planets, wouldn't the aliens living on the planet immediately have access to Forerunner technology, and to a Halo that they could potentially use? None of the new stuff makes any sense, it's just stupidity.

And as always, the art style still looked like it took 3 guys two hours to make, just not at all acceptable...
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Post by Rasq'uire'laskar on Sat Jan 02, 2010 8:10 pm

Ringleader wrote:What was the big idea NOT making humans Forerunners? Did no one else see the potential story arc completion here?
Did you not see how similar they were?
IDK about you, but the leading theory on HBO is that Forerunners are humans put into accelerated development by Precursers. Humans were still left behind. Hell, Halo 3 specifically stated that the Forerunners FOUND us.

Ringleader wrote:I mean, was it not hinted enough in all the games and books?! (until recently of course, whenever anyone can say some retarded crap and it becomes galvanized into the story). But really now, the story is rapidly losing its flare with these morons at 343 and ES, just, DESTROYING any hint of mystery and interest in the the Halo Universe.
Eh... It hasn't been brought up since CH, which was okay...

Ringleader wrote:and so the Forerunners cataloged and preserved every sentient species in the entire galaxy... EXCEPT FOR THEMSELVES!!!... The travesties going on here, to what used to be a good story are just, astronomically big.
In case you didn't notice, that's what happened in Halo 3.

Ringleader wrote:If the Halo's were right above all the inhabited planets, wouldn't the aliens living on the planet immediately have access to Forerunner technology, and to a Halo that they could potentially use? None of the new stuff makes any sense, it's just stupidity.
I believe the Covenant already found the remains of one (Eaten beyond recognition by the Hunters) and I also believe that the Forerunner could have moved the Halos afterward. It would make sense that the Halos would fire near the Species' planets. If they'd survived to the end of the Forerunner-Flood war, then obviously the Forerunners had made those areas into strongholds.

Ringleader wrote:And as always, the art style still looked like it took 3 guys two hours to make, just not at all acceptable...
Yeah, I'll give you that.
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Post by CivBase on Sat Jan 02, 2010 10:54 pm

I hate the forerunner outfits - wtf is with the wings? - but otherwise, there's nothing really wrong with this one. It left out a ton of everything behind the forerunner/flood war, though. Overall, it's just a brief summary of events for people that are too lazy to read the books.

It followed cannon better than any other one... but that's because it didn't make any of it's own, save the forerunner outfits. I can't help wonder what part II will be like, though.

BTW, I just realized.... if Dr. Halsey was like 30 in The Package... wouldn't that make John about 10? His voice got deep fast.

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Post by Divine Virus on Sun Jan 03, 2010 12:25 am

Origins was perfectly fine.

I for one liked the art style. Sure it was simple but it was still effective. It felt like it was a comic. Like in the Halo Graphic novel.

This one is my favorite so far. I liked The Flood forms that we saw. So, yeah this one was pretty good.

Yes the one thing that is kinda lame is the Forerunner armor. I guess I can see what they were going for because it sorta looks like the spartan armor. Which is one reason why I guess some of the Machines called the Spartans Reclaimers.

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Post by Gauz on Sun Jan 03, 2010 2:06 am

GO GO FORERUNNER RANGERS!


EDIT: On a serious note, after watching it, it wasn't too bad. The art stlye, I happened to like, I just wish they elaborated with some details. The rest was fine, and how anime should look by the way.
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Post by PiEdude on Sun Jan 03, 2010 8:17 am

Actually, Rock brings up a good point, (not about the Power Rangers).

Guilty Spark does say (during the Library) that the Chief's armor is inferior, and suggests a different kind.
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Post by Ringleader on Sun Jan 03, 2010 10:10 am

Ringleader wrote:What was the big idea NOT making humans Forerunners? Did no one else see the potential story arc completion here?
Did you not see how similar they were?
IDK about you, but the leading theory on HBO is that Forerunners are humans put into accelerated development by Precursers. Humans were still left behind. Hell, Halo 3 specifically stated that the Forerunners FOUND us.

I don't go on HBO, but I did notice the Forerunners looking an awful lot like humans in lame armor. The thing is the way 343 portrayed them was really really bad, they really shouldn't have showed them at all tbh... I mean what is the point?! why do you need to know what a Forerunner looked like? It doesn't add anything to the story, and it detracts a lot from it in terms of the scarce/extinct quality of the the Forerunner.

Ringleader wrote:I mean, was it not hinted enough in all the games and books?! (until recently of course, whenever anyone can say some retarded crap and it becomes galvanized into the story). But really now, the story is rapidly losing its flare with these morons at 343 and ES, just, DESTROYING any hint of mystery and interest in the the Halo Universe.
Eh... It hasn't been brought up since CH, which was okay...

I don't think it's okay, I mean, they are just bulldozing over what clearly made Halo cool. I would hardly consider anything new, that did not come out of Bungie themselves to be canon, because even if they think they are abiding by what Bungie gave them in terms of the plot structure, their interpretation of it, and where they went with it is clearly in the wrong direction (Japanese buildings on alien planets...) The potential in each one of these episodes, is so great, and what happens, is such a let down, my poor little heart cannot take much more of it.



Ringleader wrote:If the Halo's were right above all the inhabited planets, wouldn't the aliens living on the planet immediately have access to Forerunner technology, and to a Halo that they could potentially use? None of the new stuff makes any sense, it's just stupidity.
I believe the Covenant already found the remains of one (Eaten beyond recognition by the Hunters) and I also believe that the Forerunner could have moved the Halos afterward. It would make sense that the Halos would fire near the Species' planets. If they'd survived to the end of the Forerunner-Flood war, then obviously the Forerunners had made those areas into strongholds.

That was just Forerunner debris, it didn't say it was a Halo did it? When on the Ark, there seemed to be real time condition in terms of the state of each Halo ring, so if that Halo was really destroyed, I am pretty certain it would show up as debris in the Ark's control room/halo firing room. If it made sense for them to keep the Halos above inhabited planets (which I don't think we can justify Forerunner actions, giving further intrigue to the story, and making it better and more appealing) , then they probably would have kept them there. Also, there are 7 of them so they can encompass the entire area of the galaxy, so if they just had 3 of them over planets in just one arm of the Milky Way, then they wouldn't work properly as they would all fire in close proximity and not cover the remaining area of the MW. Also, the probably reason why Halos orbit around gas giants is because they are extremely large and massive, Halo's diameter is almost that of earth's, so it is not entirely practical to have such a massive complex stationed over a relatively small body.

Yeah, I feel obliged to draw up better Forerunner armor...
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Post by KrAzY on Sun Jan 03, 2010 10:20 am

the reason they orbit gas giants is for fuel



but yes... good point was brought up about the size of the galaxy... installation 04 was EXTREMELY far away from earth... Delta halo was a lot closer to earth (just judging from the time it took them to reach it)
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Post by Nocbl2 on Mon Jan 04, 2010 5:33 pm

I still see the Forerunners as Kaminoan-looking creatures, but of course more ethical. And with firearms...

The episode itself wasn't too bad, but, it had its flaws, as ever.
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Post by CivBase on Mon Jan 04, 2010 5:46 pm

Yah, showing the forerunners was a HUGE mistake...

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Post by Rasq'uire'laskar on Mon Jan 04, 2010 8:17 pm

Ringleader wrote:
I don't go on HBO, but I did notice the Forerunners looking an awful lot like humans in lame armor. The thing is the way 343 portrayed them was really really bad, they really shouldn't have showed them at all tbh... I mean what is the point?! why do you need to know what a Forerunner looked like? It doesn't add anything to the story, and it detracts a lot from it in terms of the scarce/extinct quality of the the Forerunner.
You won't get any argument from me there.

Ringleader wrote:I don't think it's okay, I mean, they are just bulldozing over what clearly made Halo cool. I would hardly consider anything new, that did not come out of Bungie themselves to be canon, because even if they think they are abiding by what Bungie gave them in terms of the plot structure, their interpretation of it, and where they went with it is clearly in the wrong direction (Japanese buildings on alien planets...) The potential in each one of these episodes, is so great, and what happens, is such a let down, my poor little heart cannot take much more of it.
Look at it this way...
Just how many games and novels (Hell, the movie!) are going to pick up on the crap in the animes? Reach already retconned the Spartan's appearances beneath their armor, and I doubt other things (Female 'leets!) are going to stick around.

Ringleader wrote:That was just Forerunner debris, it didn't say it was a Halo did it? When on the Ark, there seemed to be real time condition in terms of the state of each Halo ring, so if that Halo was really destroyed, I am pretty certain it would show up as debris in the Ark's control room/halo firing room.
Good point.

Ringleader wrote:(which I don't think we can justify Forerunner actions, giving further intrigue to the story, and making it better and more appealing)
You're going a little far there, Ringleader.

Ringleader wrote:then they probably would have kept them there. Also, there are 7 of them so they can encompass the entire area of the galaxy, so if they just had 3 of them over planets in just one arm of the Milky Way, then they wouldn't work properly as they would all fire in close proximity and not cover the remaining area of the MW.
Eh, I assumed that the Covenant come from at least two other arms of the MWG.

Ringleader wrote:Yeah, I feel obliged to draw up better Forerunner armor...
Please do. I always assumed that it would look a lot like the Sentinels, and would obscure their outline.
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Post by Ringleader on Thu Feb 25, 2010 3:20 pm

Heres a drawing of Forerunner Assault Armor I promised.

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Hes supposed to have a holographic Statue of Liberty like crown (didn't scan over well), with some other holograms floating above his head. I made the legs have mechanical segments to hide the human shape, and enhance mobility.
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Post by Gauz on Thu Feb 25, 2010 4:48 pm

Reminds me of sauron
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Post by RX on Fri Feb 26, 2010 8:31 am

Very nice, didn't know you drew THAT well
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