Infractions

by **KrAzY** Mon Dec 07, 2009 6:52 pm

i'm sick of the fighting and spam

SOOOOO

Beginning immediately is the infraction policy.

an infraction will be issued for continued spamming, fighting, or any disobedient behavior after being told to stop by a mod or group of fellow minions.

after 3 infractions you will be given a 24 hour ban

after 5 infractions you will be given a 48 hour ban

after 10 infractions you will be given a 7 day ban

god help you if you get more than 10 infractions

Chat box infractions

3 - 2 day ban from chatbox
5- 7 day ban from chatbox
10- perma ban from chat box AND 24 hour suspension from website

the count resets each month, good deeds can un-infract you...

if you ask for another member to be infracted... or be a "tattle tale" to try and get someone banned... you will be infracted

this forum is pretty laid back... so if you have done enough to get an infraction than you should pretty much know that you've done something wrong.... try to keep things from getting out of hand.

have a nice day

:zom1: :zom1: :zom1: :zom1: :zom1: :zom1:

-User was infracted for this post

by **CivBase** Mon Dec 07, 2009 6:58 pm

And how will you keep track of these infractions?

by PiEdude Mon Dec 07, 2009 6:59 pm

What the hell is happening to this site?

We can't even argue anymore?

Did you drop this KrAzY?
$Infractions 180px-Wermacht_Commander-in-Chief_f$

by **CivBase** Mon Dec 07, 2009 7:00 pm

It doesn't say anything about not arguing. If you want a debate, fine, but insulting taking turns insulting each other is not a debate.

by A_Bearded_Swede Mon Dec 07, 2009 7:00 pm

CivBase wrote:And how will you keep track of these infractions?

I dunno, what Krazy has planned, but i see it that each mod keeps a personal tally, or we keep a group one in the mod section.

by PiEdude Mon Dec 07, 2009 7:04 pm

Here's another thing, does LP know much about this?

Wouldn't you need his permission to do this sort of thing?

by **CivBase** Mon Dec 07, 2009 7:09 pm

He already has it.

by **KrAzY** Mon Dec 07, 2009 7:10 pm

I would like to add that the CB is on infraction rule now too...

asking to be unbanned in the CB will now result in a CB infraction... this includes PM's , *coff* lax *uncoff*

its okay to PM if you are still banned after your punishment should be up

mods... please mark down infractions in the mod section

by PiEdude Mon Dec 07, 2009 7:33 pm

Then shouldn't I be unbanned (for the second time today) since I was given no warning this time, what so ever, and was banned for retaliating to Bilco calling me a fag.

by **KrAzY** Mon Dec 07, 2009 7:36 pm

PiEdude wrote:Then shouldn't I be unbanned (for the second time today) since I was given no warning this time, what so ever, and was banned for retaliating to Bilco calling me a fag.

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by PiEdude Mon Dec 07, 2009 7:38 pm

KrAzY wrote:
PiEdude wrote:Then shouldn't I be unbanned (for the second time today) since I was given no warning this time, what so ever, and was banned for retaliating to Bilco calling me a fag.

-User was infracted for this post

What?

Okay, here's what happened.

I came into the CB, and said that the mods were getting squemish about cussing (jokingly) and said that the last 4 generations of my family have either been in the Navy or sons of sailors in the navy.
Bilco said (something to the effect to): "Well now we have proof that PiE is a fag"
I said: "That's nice Bilco, now go run along and drink some tea.
Then I was banned.

by **KrAzY** Mon Dec 07, 2009 7:43 pm

should have been handled via PM... as per the rules

I am unbanning you... but the infraction stays

by Ascendant Justice Mon Dec 07, 2009 8:25 pm

Its cute how you try to establish order on the internet.

by **Vigil** Tue Dec 08, 2009 3:55 am

In drastic times, drastic measures are called for.

Good to see a bit of a crackdown on the way. It was getting a little out of hand.

by Ziggy Tue Dec 08, 2009 4:35 am

Honestly, these sorts of systems deter members, and cause the frequenters to grow tired and bored of communities incredibly quickly. Considering that a lot of people here aren't afraid to voice their opinions against a matter, an incredibly strong and valuable attribute might I add, keeping this infraction scheme will only cause more issues than it solves.

One of the communities that I was a part of for at least 2 years has pretty much adopted a system similar to this, and is incredibly strict about it. The only reason why the community hasn't crumbled entirely is that people there are slaves to the senior admins and are too afraid to actually speak out. For me, unfortunately, I'm not afraid of protesting and as such I was pretty much permanantly banned for trying to fight the system. I'm 100% certain a lot of members would leave if it got to a stage like that here, which I fear it might.

People need to just show a little bit more self-control and not be so quick to insult somebody, and this infraction system needs to be abolished.

tldr: Infraction systems lead the way to shitty dictatorship-esque forums that nobody will enjoy whatsoever, ultimately leading to the death of the community, or departure of the main contributors.

by PiEdude Tue Dec 08, 2009 4:39 am

I agree with Ziggy.

Shit like this is part of the reason we abandoned the HWF.

by **Vigil** Tue Dec 08, 2009 5:32 am

Ziggy wrote:Honestly, these sorts of systems deter members, and cause the frequenters to grow tired and bored of communities incredibly quickly. Considering that a lot of people here aren't afraid to voice their opinions against a matter, an incredibly strong and valuable attribute might I add, keeping this infraction scheme will only cause more issues than it solves.

One of the communities that I was a part of for at least 2 years has pretty much adopted a system similar to this, and is incredibly strict about it. The only reason why the community hasn't crumbled entirely is that people there are slaves to the senior admins and are too afraid to actually speak out. For me, unfortunately, I'm not afraid of protesting and as such I was pretty much permanantly banned for trying to fight the system. I'm 100% certain a lot of members would leave if it got to a stage like that here, which I fear it might.

People need to just show a little bit more self-control and not be so quick to insult somebody, and this infraction system needs to be abolished.

tldr: Infraction systems lead the way to shitty dictatorship-esque forums that nobody will enjoy whatsoever, ultimately leading to the death of the community, or departure of the main contributors.

You do realise constant spamming and bitter arguments will have the same effect right? I'm all for strong opinions, so long as it does end up as a mudflinging match. Debate is fine, Bickering isn't.

HWF did become stricter as it declined, but that was because it was drastically needed. The levels of spamming and flamming had just got to insane levels, and there was little choice in the matter. People would probably leave again and the forum would get even quieter, but to be honest I wouldn't be crying if some members left.

I agree, but this is the internet, and most people can't control themsleves and act like 4 year olds on a sugar rush.

I think the infarction system should only be a temporary deterant, only wheeled out when the forum ruckus get's a little out of hand, just to calm people down and maintain order. If it's a constant it would just be a looming noose and people would tread a little too carefully, destorying the point of the freedom this forum has compared to HWF.

Besides, the forum is already a Ditactorship. Pheonix's will shall be done.

by Ascendant Justice Tue Dec 08, 2009 6:30 am

The entire idea sounds like a load of shit to me. You do realize that now we are going to have a bunch of little babies running around screaming "AAAHHH SO AND SO CALLED ME STUPID INDIRECTLY THATS A PENALTY!!"

*infraction"

by **Vigil** Tue Dec 08, 2009 6:34 am

Only if they're retarded.

The majority of people here will probably continue as usual, and when somebody gets out of line ignores them and let them get infractioned.

by **CivBase** Tue Dec 08, 2009 6:47 am

PiEdude wrote:I agree with Ziggy.

Shit like this is part of the reason we abandoned the HWF.

Pie, you already get banned frequently. This will be no different, but now we have a system to better keep track of your bannings. If anything, it should be happy because now you (probably) wont get banned as easily as you did in the CB just a bit ago. Instead, you'll just get an infraction and be on your marry way.

At HWF, we didn't spam, fight, or any of that sorts. The HWF, namely Aloysius, restricted the entire forum to posting only about Halo Wars and banned anyone who spoke out against him. THAT is why we left, and such is most defniately not the case here, else you would already be banned.

by **KrAzY** Tue Dec 08, 2009 10:18 am

just to be clear, infractions will only be handed out after you have been told to stop

if you let it keep going out of hand it is your fault... and on the old system would have received a 24 hour ban right then and there... if not a longer ban than that

permabans still won't be handed out unless you are being an absolute douchebag... and bans are still under the discretion of Pheonix

by **Angatar** Tue Dec 08, 2009 12:47 pm

If you follow the rules, like you should, the infractions should have no affect on you.

by A_Bearded_Swede Tue Dec 08, 2009 2:30 pm

Ascendant Justice wrote:The entire idea sounds like a load of shit to me. You do realize that now we are going to have a bunch of little babies running around screaming "AAAHHH SO AND SO CALLED ME STUPID INDIRECTLY THATS A PENALTY!!"

*infraction"

KrAzY wrote:
if you ask for another member to be infracted... or be a "tattle tale" to try and get someone banned... you will be infracted

by MrX Tue Dec 08, 2009 2:50 pm

PiEdude wrote:I agree with Ziggy.

Shit like this is part of the reason we abandoned the HWF.

no we left HWF to get away from this shit

by Vtrooper Tue Dec 08, 2009 2:54 pm

sargentbilco wrote:
PiEdude wrote:I agree with Ziggy.

Shit like this is part of the reason we abandoned the HWF.

no we left HWF to get away from this shit

also the reson why i still come here to get away from (damn school)

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