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Post by Divine Virus on Fri Nov 20, 2009 3:50 pm

Hey what's up Crimson Flame. I'll get right to the point. This thread is about graphic novels. (we will call them GN's)

I recently started to get really interested in them and now I crave them. I started out with Watchmen. When the movie was still prior to release I did not know exactly what Watchmen was or what the story was. So when a friend of mine let me borrow the GN, of course, I loved it.

More to the point, this made me want more. And so I've done my own shoping around for some GN's and found some that I will soon be purchasing. But I thought I'd make a thread here and ask you guys about some GN's that you think I should be looking into.

The type I really like are the dark style ones. GN's that have dark stories, art, characters, settings etc etc. Here are some example's of some that I found just today while at a book store. (which i was at for only about 45 mins so not enough time to do more search)


- Ball Peen Hammer
- Groom Lake
- JTHM
- Batman: Arkham Asylum


So, anyway, If there are any members here that have some GN knowledge or just know some great ones that have roughly the same style then please, discuss here! Of course you can discuss GN's in general as well. Very Happy
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Post by A_Bearded_Swede on Fri Nov 20, 2009 3:53 pm

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Post by Ziggy on Fri Nov 20, 2009 4:26 pm

I've only read Watchmen, and it was fucking amazing. Not just the art, but the plot and the text.
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Post by Rasq'uire'laskar on Fri Nov 20, 2009 5:32 pm

Bill Watterson:
"You can call them graphic novels and try to tackle real life issues, but comic books are still stupid."

Eh, haven't picked any up and actually started reading them, but I'm tempted to with Watchmen.
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Post by Nocbl2 on Fri Nov 20, 2009 5:35 pm

Isn't Bill Watterson dead?
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Post by Divine Virus on Fri Nov 20, 2009 6:01 pm

If your going to start anywhere Rasq' then Watchmen is a great place to do it.

It's better then the movie. Smile
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Post by Rasq'uire'laskar on Fri Nov 20, 2009 8:03 pm

Nocbl2 wrote:Isn't Bill Watterson dead?
He's alive.
Just in retirement. Very, very reclusive retirement.
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Post by czar on Fri Nov 20, 2009 8:38 pm

Try Some of the Starwars GNs
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Post by Vigil on Sat Nov 21, 2009 3:46 am

I'd recommend the following.

V for Vendetta

A History Of Violence

Batman:The Dark Knight Returns.

All of those are pretty dark.

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Post by Offensive Bias on Sat Nov 21, 2009 12:09 pm

The movie of V for Vendetta sucks.
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Post by Toaster on Sat Nov 21, 2009 12:39 pm

Rasq'uire'laskar wrote:
Nocbl2 wrote:Isn't Bill Watterson dead?
He's alive.
Just in retirement. Very, very reclusive retirement.

Well as much as I love Calvin and Hobbes, he sounds like quite a douche.
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Post by Rasq'uire'laskar on Sat Nov 21, 2009 2:09 pm

ReconToaster wrote:
Rasq'uire'laskar wrote:
Nocbl2 wrote:Isn't Bill Watterson dead?
He's alive.
Just in retirement. Very, very reclusive retirement.

Well as much as I love Calvin and Hobbes, he sounds like quite a douche.
No, not really.
He was a creative genius, but he couldn't keep up with a schedule, and he wanted more freedom with formats.

Add to that the fact that he hates commercialization, like what Garfield has gone through, and he was doomed to a limited run.
I guess he's happy where he is right now.

Objectivley Bias wrote:The movie of V for Vendetta sucks.
It was actually pretty good, but I get the feeling that a lot was left out that shouldn't have been.
Would have preferred two movies that could tell the rest of the story, culminating where the actual movie ended.
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Post by Toaster on Sat Nov 21, 2009 2:37 pm

Sorry, I didn't really quote what I meant to.

I meant that he was a douche for what he said about Graphic Novels ;)
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Post by Divine Virus on Sat Nov 21, 2009 8:29 pm

Yeah I found it strange that a cartoonist would say comic's are stupid.

Anyway, does anyone else have any good sugestions or am I asking for too much here? Smile
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Post by Rasq'uire'laskar on Sat Nov 21, 2009 9:42 pm

Ah.
Found the comic Watterson made the comment in.
I've got the Tenth Anniversary Calvin and Hobbes, which has Watterson's commentary written in it.
Calvin: Mom doesn't understand comic books.
She doesn't realize that comic books deal with serious issues of the day. Today's superheroes face tough moral dilemmas.
Comic books aren't just escapist fantasy. They're sophisticated social critiques.
Hobbes: Is Amazon Girl's super power the ability to squeeze that figure into that suit?
Calvin: Nah, they can all do that.

Watterson: "You can make your superhero a psychopath, you can draw gut-splattering violence, and you can call it a 'graphic novel', but comic books are still incredibly stupid."
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