Satanic Bible
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Opinion?
Re: Satanic Bible
No, it isn't.
Angatar- Lord's Personal Minion
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Re: Satanic Bible
This book should be re-named to something non-controversial and more accurate
more people would read it
more people would read it
BBJynne- The Lord's Blood Knight
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Vigil- Dark Knight of the Flames
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Re: Satanic Bible
BBJynne wrote:This book should be re-named to something non-controversial and more accurate
more people would read it
the point is that only people who are able to look past the cover are going to be able to read it and be helped by it
KrAzY- Painter of the Flames
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Gauz wrote:People are making generalizations and assumptions based on the title. It kills me on the inside that people take stuff from the media so seriously.
yeah, the book does actually go over why its satanism and not something else.
KristallNacht- Unholy Demon Of The Flame
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BBJynne wrote:This book should be re-named to something non-controversial and more accurate
more people would read it
I really think satanism is the most accurate name for it....
KristallNacht- Unholy Demon Of The Flame
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KristallNacht wrote:BBJynne wrote:This book should be re-named to something non-controversial and more accurate
more people would read it
I really think satanism is the most accurate name for it....
Let's re-name it to "Hello Kitty Fun Time Adventure Book"
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Re: Satanic Bible
in my opinion... if NT had named this thread "an interesting read" instead of "satanic bible" that 70% of you who voted ridiculous would have voted reasonable
KrAzY- Painter of the Flames
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KrAzY wrote:in my opinion... if NT had named this thread "an interesting read" instead of "satanic bible" that 70% of you who voted ridiculous would have voted reasonable
they still would have seen that it was the satanic bible
KristallNacht- Unholy Demon Of The Flame
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I can assure you that more than half the people who voted in this thread opened the thread, voted, and left, without even reading the first post
KrAzY- Painter of the Flames
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I opened the thread, read the first post, and voted.
Religion should be abolished. Its caused far to many problems in the world and no real good has come from it.
Religion should be abolished. Its caused far to many problems in the world and no real good has come from it.
Ascendant Justice- Lord's Personal Minion
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Reasonable train of thought, ridiculous as a religion. A religion like this will only come to hate and civil war, forgiveness is our tool to stop this. From what i have seen it doesn't promote friendships, simply mutual aquaitances. If he's nice to you, be nice to him, but a true friendship is when someone can do something terrible and the other would forgive him.
Also, do as you would be done by is great, and so is Be done by as you did...in theory. The problem with that is that it will never come down to a resolution. I don't know if you have ever ad a prank war with your brother, but both of you will be miserable until one pulls the golden rule. Be done by as you did creates a vicious circle, and it takes someone weak backing down to end it.
Also, do as you would be done by is great, and so is Be done by as you did...in theory. The problem with that is that it will never come down to a resolution. I don't know if you have ever ad a prank war with your brother, but both of you will be miserable until one pulls the golden rule. Be done by as you did creates a vicious circle, and it takes someone weak backing down to end it.
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Too bad it wouldn't cause civil war and hate?
Plus, Christianity doesn't promote friendship so well either.
Plus, Christianity doesn't promote friendship so well either.
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Gauz wrote:Too bad it wouldn't cause civil war and hate?
Plus, Christianity doesn't promote friendship so well either.
A single disagreement or wrong would very quickly inflate into full blown catastrophe. A war would be far easier to come by.
And christianity promotes loving your neighbor and forgiveness. Not always the best policy, but it is far better for keeping the peace, whether between friends or nations.
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it would still be humans... its not like if a person follows a religion that they start doing everything "by the book"...
*points at any politician who claims to be religious
NVM satanism doen't say you HAVE to enact revenge... it just says that it is okay to enact revenge... people would still forgive each other for small things
contrary to popular belief... religion does not dictate a person's moral standings on issues... people survived before christianity, people survive as atheists... satanism is already a religion... you don't hear about them going around killing anyone who bumps into them
again you are looking at the title of the book before the message of the book
*points at any politician who claims to be religious
NVM satanism doen't say you HAVE to enact revenge... it just says that it is okay to enact revenge... people would still forgive each other for small things
contrary to popular belief... religion does not dictate a person's moral standings on issues... people survived before christianity, people survive as atheists... satanism is already a religion... you don't hear about them going around killing anyone who bumps into them
again you are looking at the title of the book before the message of the book
KrAzY- Painter of the Flames
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Love thy neighboor eh?
Must I get the text and scripture?
Must I get the text and scripture?
Gauz- Crimson Medic
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Must I get the pope to kick your weak ass?Gauz wrote:Love thy neighboor eh?
Must I get the text and scripture?
Death no More- Lord's Personal Minion
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Re: Satanic Bible
TNine wrote:Reasonable train of thought, ridiculous as a religion. A religion like this will only come to hate and civil war, forgiveness is our tool to stop this. From what i have seen it doesn't promote friendships, simply mutual aquaitances. If he's nice to you, be nice to him, but a true friendship is when someone can do something terrible and the other would forgive him.
Actually, it is revenge based on intentional acts.
not "oh shit i accidently did this"
plus the Satanic Bible actually approaches the topic of forgiveness on a personal and spiritual level. It even addresses to recognize habitual behavior as something you shouldn't seek forgiveness for, since its just gonna happen again. And for other things, more importantly than asking for forgiveness is to demonstrate that you're actually sorry about it and learn from your mistakes.
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KrAzY wrote:i
contrary to popular belief... religion does not dictate a person's moral standings on issues... people survived before christianity, people survive as atheists... satanism is already a religion... you don't hear about them going around killing anyone who bumps into them
I've actually heard of more christians killing people than Satanists.
KristallNacht- Unholy Demon Of The Flame
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That's cause there's more Christians by far than Satanists.KristallNacht wrote:I've actually heard of more christians killing people than Satanists.
BBJynne- The Lord's Blood Knight
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But we won't. Most humans will always want to attack others for revenge, and by itself, this can be overcome. If we got a religious excuse, nothing would really stop us.KrAzY wrote:it would still be humans... its not like if a person follows a religion that they start doing everything "by the book"...
*points at any politician who claims to be religious
NVM satanism doen't say you HAVE to enact revenge... it just says that it is okay to enact revenge... people would still forgive each other for small things
contrary to popular belief... religion does not dictate a person's moral standings on issues... people survived before christianity, people survive as atheists... satanism is already a religion... you don't hear about them going around killing anyone who bumps into them
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If everyone was Satanist, the the vicious circle i described, which is very natural in our society, would have little to no restraint. A country that is satanist that feels another has wronged it will be quick to strike back, and will have little inhibitions about going to war. This is not totally dictated by Satanism, but any religion is very influential.
again you are looking at the title of the book before the message of the book
That's a pitiful excuse for a defense. Satan in Christianity has little to no want for revenge, but merely turning others away from God. I used the information provided in this thread
I was talking about intentional acts done in the spur of the moment. Do something stupid, you're immediatly screwed.KristallNacht wrote:TNine wrote:Reasonable train of thought, ridiculous as a religion. A religion like this will only come to hate and civil war, forgiveness is our tool to stop this. From what i have seen it doesn't promote friendships, simply mutual aquaitances. If he's nice to you, be nice to him, but a true friendship is when someone can do something terrible and the other would forgive him.
Actually, it is revenge based on intentional acts.
not "oh shit i accidently did this"
But what in Satanism encourages others to forgive? It's all about doing what you want, and forgiveness is rarely a natural reaction.plus the Satanic Bible actually approaches the topic of forgiveness on a personal and spiritual level. It even addresses to recognize habitual behavior as something you shouldn't seek forgiveness for, since its just gonna happen again. And for other things, more importantly than asking for forgiveness is to demonstrate that you're actually sorry about it and learn from your mistakes.
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Re: Satanic Bible
Would like to hear that explained.Rasq'uire'laskar wrote:Satan represents responsibility to the responsible
Its basically that people should be held accountable to their actions.
In the form of a Satan? how exactly does this answer Rasq's question? So Satan represents accountability and he wants indulgence?
Rasq'uire'laskar wrote:So, belief in a God is inherently wrong, but belief in a god is inherently right?
>.> I think I prefer atheists.
well thats not the ENTIRE passage. the rest of that chapter goes on to suggest that there is no reason to even externalize your god from yourself, and instead worship yourself as though you're a god.
Well, if the opposite were true, then we would have no standing in understanding god, and if there was a god and he/she/it wanted us to understand, then there would probable be a base of carnal understanding that accompanies being a human being, and simultaneously an animal. otherwise, we could not make point of it because it would not exist in our eyes/minds.
If the giant spaghetti monster created everything, all reality, and then made it so it appeared as though it did not, then our understanding is baseless. How exactly can it implant a thought equitable to itself in us and also make it so it is impossible to assume that people can attribute the spaghetti monster qualities to themselves? There are several key characteristics in religions, such as unconditional love, that cannot exist in our minds, it transcends our understanding altogether, even if you donate all your money to hungry children in Africa, you are still inadvertently and unknowingly serving yourself (that is why you would do such a thing), either from making yourself feel good, or making yourself look better to others. So by worshiping god, you are not worshiping yourself, but a level of understanding clearly above your own. (not your own, but everything that is a living organism's potential understanding)
The pursuit of higher understanding is a noble cause, unfortunately people do not understand this thoroughly enough for it to mean anything from a religious standpoint, and essentially, the idea of unconditional love is a thought only possible in an entity that does not evolve, does not need anything, and is capable of infinite thought, something we will never be (still, it is something good to shoot for, like a superhero). but, Satanism, from the notable texts you have quoted, is indulgence when available, this is compulsion to a living thing, and not particularly a philosophical pillar on which to stand, a goldfish will indulge itself to its doom, a bear will indulge itself so it can survive through winter, but the only separating medium of man and beast is our ability to transcend this need to indulge through our higher thinking and technological achievements. Satanism has been rendered obsolete through our technological achievement, we no longer need to indulge ourselves. So, basically, it seems as though the main idea of Satanism is indulge, or reduce yourself to a dog, and then overcorrect through self control? what sort of joke of a philosophy is this? You do not need to consciously have self control if you do not indulge yourself willingly, fat people do not need to go on a diet, if they did not fatten themselves up in the first place. accountability should be a precursor to indulgence, if you thought instead of acted out of compulsion, then you should be, mentally, accountable for your actions before you even manifest them, and think. No need to play devils advocate.
And really, if the whole entire religion = characteristics such as responsibility, accountability and self control, then their is no religion, it is just...
those characteristics.
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