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Post by Toaster on Sun Sep 27, 2009 1:19 pm

lol, doesn't really surprise me a whole lot.

Haven't you openly professed on here to being mildly fascist, or am I confusing you with Rot?
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Post by Rasq'uire'laskar on Sun Sep 27, 2009 1:25 pm

Yeah, that was me.

And that was based on a different quiz, called "The World's Smallest Political Quiz", where I found that I favored moderate control of economics and strong control of the social sphere.

Although nothing bothers me like people claiming that a certain race/creed/social status is inherently superior.
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Post by R!zZle BiZzl£ on Sun Sep 27, 2009 1:29 pm

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Post by TNine on Sun Sep 27, 2009 3:32 pm

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Post by Zaki90 on Sun Sep 27, 2009 4:07 pm

I expected to be way more Communist.

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Post by Toaster on Sun Sep 27, 2009 4:12 pm

Rasq'uire'laskar wrote:
Nothing bothers me like people claiming that a certain race/creed/social status is inherently superior.

Right, but making everyone follow the SAME social creeds is IDEAL! Razz
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Post by Rotaretilbo on Sun Sep 27, 2009 5:27 pm

Rasq and I have both professed to leaning towards fascism, which is why I was surprised to be more left than authoritarian. Really, I think I just didn't understand some of the questions, so I guessed, and those skewed my results.

I was surprised to see NT down in the Libertarian Left, though. I would have expected him to be high in the Authoritarian Left.

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Post by CivBase on Sun Sep 27, 2009 5:30 pm

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Interesting...

I hardly expected to be liberal... but that's probably because I was hesitant to strongly agree or disagree to anything and some areas I was either indifferent, or feel that my actual answer was not available.

Still...

Oh well, w00t Huckabee!

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Post by Toaster on Sun Sep 27, 2009 6:06 pm

Rot wrote:I was surprised to see NT down in the Libertarian Left, though. I would have expected him to be high in the Authoritarian Left.

BUT HE'S A DIRTY PIRATE!

Civ wrote:I hardly expected to be liberal... but that's probably because I was hesitant to strongly agree or disagree to anything and some areas I was either indifferent, or feel that my actual answer was not available.

I really only answered "strongly" on those last two pages, which were mostly questions of personal morality/beliefs.
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Post by PiEdude on Sun Sep 27, 2009 6:07 pm

KristallNacht wrote:Political Compass - Page 2 Pcgraphpng

this probably doesn't come as a surprise to any of you....









okay...now for my real results:

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and wooo Ron Paul

Ron Paul?

NT, do you ever pick the winning team?
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Post by Lord Pheonix on Sun Sep 27, 2009 7:02 pm

I barely ever picked "strongly agree or disagree" as I always can see things from the other persons side and see why they are right in their way.

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Post by Gold Spartan on Sun Sep 27, 2009 7:04 pm

KrAzY wrote:Political Compass - Page 2 Pcgraphpng.php?ec=0.50&soc=0


not suprised
awww, I thought I'd be the closest in middle ground. Razz
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Post by Toaster on Sun Sep 27, 2009 7:15 pm

Pie wrote:Ron Paul?

NT, do you ever pick the winning team?

lol, you didn't bother to comment when I posted a VIDEO of Ron Paul...
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Post by KristallNacht on Sun Sep 27, 2009 7:33 pm

PiEman wrote:

Ron Paul?

NT, do you ever pick the winning team?

I pick the right decision. the fact that the majority of the country is fucking morons doesn't change the fact Ron Paul was the best choice.
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Post by PiEdude on Sun Sep 27, 2009 7:38 pm

KristallNacht wrote:
PiEman wrote:

Ron Paul?

NT, do you ever pick the winning team?

I pick the right decision. the fact that the majority of the country is fucking morons doesn't change the fact Ron Paul was the best choice.

Name something positive about Ron Paul without putting any kind of spin in your words or using sarcasm or making loaded comparisons between him and other pollitical figures.
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Post by KristallNacht on Sun Sep 27, 2009 7:42 pm

PiEman wrote:Name something positive about Ron Paul without putting any kind of spin in your words or using sarcasm or making loaded comparisons between him and other pollitical figures.

name something negative about ron paul.


positive:
wants smaller government
doesn't support preemptive illegal wars


your move
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Post by PiEdude on Sun Sep 27, 2009 7:49 pm

Negative:
He's a Conservative (this may be more of an opinion)
He advocates leaving the UN, which we created and are part of the Security Council.
He opposes the War on Drugs
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Post by Rotaretilbo on Sun Sep 27, 2009 8:03 pm

PiEman wrote:Negative:
He's a Conservative (this may be more of an opinion)

Well, I'll say Positive: He's a Conservative.

PiEman wrote:He advocates leaving the UN, which we created and are part of the Security Council.

Positive: He wants to leave the UN, which doesn't get shit done anyway and is as useless as the LoN, only being kept afloat because we partake in it from time to time.

PiEman wrote:He opposes the War on Drugs

Oh, hay, an actual negative. I didn't know you could think rationally, pie. Razz

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Post by Gold Spartan on Sun Sep 27, 2009 8:05 pm

At least NATO still gets things done.
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Post by PiEdude on Sun Sep 27, 2009 8:07 pm

Rotaretilbo wrote:
PiEman wrote:Negative:
He's a Conservative (this may be more of an opinion)

Well, I'll say Positive: He's a Conservative.
Yeah, I figured it'd be a bad idea to post this one on this site.
Kinda like jumping in a pool of starving sharks wearing a unitard made of chum.

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PiEman wrote:He advocates leaving the UN, which we created and are part of the Security Council.

Positive: He wants to leave the UN, which doesn't get shit done anyway and is as useless as the LoN, only being kept afloat because we partake in it from time to time.
Now, the UN sure as hell isn't perfect, but the answer is refinement and reform rather than dumping it altogether.

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PiEman wrote:He opposes the War on Drugs

Oh, hay, an actual negative. I didn't know you could think rationally, pie. Razz
Whatever
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Post by KristallNacht on Sun Sep 27, 2009 8:09 pm

Rotaretilbo wrote:
PiEman wrote:He opposes the War on Drugs

Oh, hay, an actual negative. I didn't know you could think rationally, pie. Razz

the war on marijuana is a bad thing. it doesn't do any good for our country. and that is most likely the focus of his intent, not on just letting methheads roam the streets while trippin balls.

the other points i agree with rot.

though the conservative liberal thing doesn't matter to me. I'm bipartisan. I agree with HIM not his party. and thats the real point.
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Post by Rasq'uire'laskar on Sun Sep 27, 2009 9:17 pm

ReconToaster wrote:
Rasq'uire'laskar wrote:
Nothing bothers me like people claiming that a certain race/creed/social status is inherently superior.

Right, but making everyone follow the SAME social creeds is IDEAL! Razz
For an engine to run efficiently, all the parts must be ground down to a narrow tolerance, within specification.

But ideally, you should not force conformation. Society should conform itself, be it by the power of the written word or the power of the outspoken orator.
Letting power grow from the barrel of a gun should be used as a last resort.

In any case, since we're dealing with the currant situation, I am closer to a libertarian than my actual score shows. I am a strict-constructionist of the United States Constitution, and will be so long as the United States stands, because it is the foundation of the laws of our land.

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PiEman wrote:Name something positive about Ron Paul without putting any kind of spin in your words or using sarcasm or making loaded comparisons between him and other pollitical figures.

name something negative about ron paul.
Easy:
He wants us back on the Gold Standard. Never mind the economic devastation that would cause.

In any case, I admire him. I just don't agree with everything he says.

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Rotaretilbo wrote:
PiEman wrote:He opposes the War on Drugs

Oh, hay, an actual negative. I didn't know you could think rationally, pie. Razz

the war on marijuana is a bad thing. it doesn't do any good for our country. and that is most likely the focus of his intent, not on just letting methheads roam the streets while trippin balls.

the other points i agree with rot.

though the conservative liberal thing doesn't matter to me. I'm bipartisan. I agree with HIM not his party. and thats the real point.
Conservative isn't based on party lines.
I'm conservative, but I don't support everything the Republicans do, and I support some of the things Democrats do.
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Post by Toaster on Sun Sep 27, 2009 9:44 pm

The war on drugs is a massive waqste of federal dollars.

Ron Paul does not support the legalization of illegal drugs on all levels, but only the federal level, and he's right. Illegal drug laws should be established and enforced on a state level.

More specifically, the war on marijuana is an absolute waste of money and effort. The vast majority of money spent on the American "war on drugs" goes to incarcerating the trafficking/possession of marijuana, rather than going into protecting society from VASTLY more dangerous drugs, like meth, heroin, or cocaine.

The Judge of the DEA HIMSELF has been quoted for stating that "Marijuana, in its natural form, is one of the safest, therapeutically active substances known to man."

Marijuana is NOT chemically addictive. Marijuana does NOT cause lung cancer. Marijuana does NOT kill brain cells. Marijuana does NOT induce anger or make you depressed like alcohol has the potential to.

The only thing that surrounds marijuana in violence is the fact that it is illegal and therefor has to be treated as contraband. The only reason it is any more of a gateway drug than alcohol or cigarettes is because, in acquiring it, you have to make relations with dealers who might also sell harmful drugs.

The fact is, most people would agree that marijuana should be legal for medical, anesthetic purposes, while at the same time, most people are radically against the use of marijuana to gain pleasure. Why is that? Why is our society so bent on suppressing the pursuit of happiness and pleasure?

It is absolutely ridiculous that government has the power to keep people from growing or smoking a completely natural plant. Government is a social contract put in place to protect the rights of the people, and ensure their safety. The war on marijuana serves nothing toward this purpose.

It should NOT be illegal. It's a fucking plant rot.

Also, Carl Sagan, the greatest man ever to have existed, believed in the legalization of marijuana. Carl Sagan, rot.

PLEASE watch this documentary. It made me much more radical in my beliefs toward the issue, and in the least case, it will certainly give you a better perspective of the opposition. http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-9077214414651731007&ei=KS3ASt78GZPllQfrspTjBg&q=the+union+the+business+behind+getting+high#

PiEman wrote:

Name something positive about Ron Paul without putting any kind of spin in your words or using sarcasm or making loaded comparisons between him and other pollitical figures.

-Priority towards preserving individual rights
-Humble foreign policy that does not involve policing the world, which is the job of the UN.
-Ending of the federal "drug war"
-lower taxes
-Less government regulation of the free-market (this one is good in some cases, but disastrous in others.)

I'm not with him when it comes to leaving the UN. The UN definitely needs revision and reorganization, but the it needs to stay alive. We need a multi-national organization WITH A MILITARY to enforce things like the Geneva convention, and to uphold proactive communication between nations. It would be better to fix what we have than to throw everything away and start over.
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Post by KristallNacht on Sun Sep 27, 2009 10:13 pm

ReconToaster wrote:We need a multi-national organization WITH A MILITARY to enforce things like the Geneva convention

sadly, our own military barely follows the geneva convention.

as shown in Generation Kill, republican guard soldiers surrendered to American troops during operation iraqi freedom. The first large group of these was denied care and protection and sent back to where there were known to be death squads waiting for them against the geneva convention.
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Post by Toaster on Mon Sep 28, 2009 4:20 am

KristallNacht wrote:
sadly, our own military barely follows the geneva convention.

as shown in Generation Kill, republican guard soldiers surrendered to American troops during operation iraqi freedom. The first large group of these was denied care and protection and sent back to where there were known to be death squads waiting for them against the geneva convention.

So was water-boarding, and the attaching of electrodes to prisoners' genitals.

So was My Lai. I think that guy ended up serving one year of house arrest...
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