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Post by CivBase on Wed Sep 16, 2009 5:53 pm

Alright, this thread is where AJ and Ang can whine and complain all they want about the 50 ODST threads (even though there's only 7).

Allow me to kick it off:

This is not officially a Halo-oriented site (in fact, it was originally built around an MMO called Ogame and did not get much popularity until a thread about it was posted on HWF), but the origins of every user on this site stems back to Halo. Many users came from the Halo Wars Forums, and some from even further back. BLS is even a Halo-oriented forum.

There used to be a forum specifically for Halo threads, but it was deleted due to inactivity. After Halo Wars came out, there wasn't much to talk about in the Halo universe other random guesses about whether there would be another Halo game, and what it would be like. Now a new Halo game is coming out in one week, and this game is extremely unique and highly anticipated, containing a non-linear (lobby) campaign, firefight, and a variety of new weapons and enemies.

With a forum almost 100% made up of Halo fanboys people who enjoy playing the Halo trillogy (yah, I'm talking about you as well), I'm surprised that we have restricted ourselves to so few threads as it is. AJ, just look at your name, it's a ship from Halo! How can you complain so much about a game that you based your own pseudonym off of? Hypocrite.

Face it, the mods don't care, you two are the only ones that do. So, stop being immature brats and spamming every Halo thread with garbage and get a life!


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Post by KristallNacht on Wed Sep 16, 2009 6:19 pm

I am not a fanboy. I may have been during the Halo CE era, but no longer.


honestly, i should never have rented halo wars. It FAR under achieved my expectations, which were low to begin with.
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Post by Gold Spartan on Wed Sep 16, 2009 6:23 pm

Civbase wrote:it was originally built around an MMO called Ogame and did not get much popularity until a thread about it was posted on HWF),
I'm suprised how many people forget this.
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Post by Ascendant Justice on Wed Sep 16, 2009 6:39 pm

CivBase wrote:So, stop being immature brats and spamming every Halo thread with garbage and get a life!

Coming from the guy who feels the need to antagonize people by making more unnecessary forum junk.

However I am not going to take the bait. Instead I will simply say this: have a fine day sir.
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Post by Toaster on Wed Sep 16, 2009 7:32 pm

I'm not a fanboy. I was... but I've gotten over it.

I think there are plenty of games that deserve much more attention than a glorified expansion.

You could also stop being so wasteful, and condense this discussion to one, two, or even three threads. To make SEVEN THREADS FOR ONE THING is just dumb. The subject matter is irrelevant.
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Post by Gauz on Wed Sep 16, 2009 7:42 pm

Civ, i'm really happy for you, and i'll let you finish, but zaki had one of the best debate threads ever!
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Post by laxspartan007 on Wed Sep 16, 2009 8:22 pm

GAUZ, I FUCKING LOVE COLORING TOO!!!
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Post by CivBase on Wed Sep 16, 2009 8:25 pm

Ascendant Justice wrote:
CivBase wrote:So, stop being immature brats and spamming every Halo thread with garbage and get a life!

Coming from the guy who feels the need to antagonize people by making more unnecessary forum junk.

However I am not going to take the bait. Instead I will simply say this: have a fine day sir.
You only prove my point. There is no bait. This is what it is.

You had this coming to you, but you just couldn't shut your trap.

KristallNacht wrote:I am not a fanboy. I may have been during the Halo CE era, but no longer.
ReconToaster wrote:I'm not a fanboy. I was... but I've gotten over it.
Maybe fanboy isn't the right word for it, but everyone here enjoys playing the Halo trilogy.

ReconToaster wrote:I think there are plenty of games that deserve much more attention than a glorified expansion.
I'd hardly call this a glorified expansion. It is unlike any other Halo game ever created and a completely new game in its own right. The only thing that makes it an expansion is the fact that it uses the Halo 3 engine, but Stubbs the Zombie uses the Halo CE engine and it is certainly a game of its own.

ReconToaster wrote:You could also stop being so wasteful, and condense this discussion to one, two, or even three threads. To make SEVEN THREADS FOR ONE THING is just dumb. The subject matter is irrelevant.
I have made two threads: a countdown thread and a firefight thread, but the countdown thread was more of a joke.

I'd hardly consider this a thread for ODST, but instead a thread for this debate. Really, it has nothing to do with the game.

As for the other five, one of them is a general thread, something that can hardly contain the amount of discussion over such an important game to these forums. The others are over ViDocs and the live action films. Perhaps they could have been combined (especially the live action ones), but they have done no harm. We've had far more off-topic threads for Warhammer.

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Post by Rasq'uire'laskar on Wed Sep 16, 2009 8:55 pm

CivBase wrote:
Maybe fanboy isn't the right word for it, but everyone here enjoys playing the Halo trilogy.
Not me.
I've kinda burned out on the Halo 2 campaign, nobody will play with me (Aside from someone I have trouble scheduling with), and I didn't like the dual-wielding feature...

I'm just in because I love the backstory, and have written a novel-length story around it.
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Post by CivBase on Wed Sep 16, 2009 9:01 pm

Okay.....

Well, most of us enjoy playing the Halo trilogy.

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Post by Ukurse on Thu Sep 17, 2009 12:01 am

CivBase wrote:get a life!
Lol?!
You are telling him to get a life when your the one who all you can fucking think about is some shitty Halo game and while you wait you have to converse about it in not just one, not two, but like 7 fucking threads.

You get a life.

Also, it is a overly popular expansion, the first thing Bungie described it as was a stand along expansion pack to the Halo 3 campaign, so they add in a Firefight mode and advertise it as a full game and sell it for full retail price, lazy faggots.
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Post by Divine Virus on Thu Sep 17, 2009 12:45 am

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Post by CivBase on Thu Sep 17, 2009 6:38 am

Ukurse wrote:
CivBase wrote:get a life!
Lol?!
You are telling him to get a life when your the one who all you can fucking think about is some shitty Halo game and while you wait you have to converse about it in not just one, not two, but like 7 fucking threads.
I believe I have already gone over this.

Ukurse wrote:You get a life.
Excuse me? I am royally pissed that two guys had the nerve to come into an extremely informative thread based on a highly anticipated game to this forum and trash it with nothing but spam. Then, after that, they had to keep it up in every new Halo thread made just to prove their point.

They could have simply said "hey guys, could you stop making ODST threads and just stick to the ones we have? There are beginning to be a lot of them." OR... if it bothered them so much, they could have PMed LP, who is the only one who could do anything about the matter, or created a mega-thread themselves where they would just copy and paste information from previous threads. But NOOOOOOO.... they had to go and ruin all the other Halo threads.

Ukurse wrote:[Also, it is a overly popular expansion, the first thing Bungie described it as was a stand along expansion pack to the Halo 3 campaign, so they add in a Firefight mode and advertise it as a full game and sell it for full retail price, lazy faggots.
Have you not seen this game, yet? Are you kidding? It is no more of an expansion to Halo 3 than Stubbs the Zombie was an expansion to Halo: CE. It is it's own game with an impressively large campaign that is far more unique to the series than any other game of the Halo trillogy. The only reason one would not consider it a game is because of it's lack of a multiplayer server, but it clearly makes up for that with firefight.

The game started as an expansion, but it evolved into much more.




Now, I have stated my argument, and nobody has come forward with a counter of any sort. How anyone could try to play the reverse card on me when you don't have any defense for your own side is beyond me. Stop dodging the argument and defend your case or conform and stop spamming the Halo threads.

As AJ would have put it: Good day to you, Sir.

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Post by KristallNacht on Thu Sep 17, 2009 11:07 am

CivBase wrote:
The game started as an expansion, but it evolved into much more.

lol yeah right.

how much has changed in the engine from halo 3? nothing whatsoever.

the campaign, while being unique in presentation hasn't actually been shown to be all that large.

firefight isn't anything new, its only new for halo.


a more accurate representation is Halo 3: ODST is no more an expansion for Halo 3 than Half Life 2: episode 2 was an expansion to Half life 2: episode 1.

but the difference is that episode 2 was cheaper than $60 and it was part of the orange box
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Post by CivBase on Thu Sep 17, 2009 11:30 am

KristallNacht wrote:
CivBase wrote:
The game started as an expansion, but it evolved into much more.

lol yeah right.

how much has changed in the engine from halo 3? nothing whatsoever.
Stubbs the Zombie used the Halo 1 engine. An engine does not make a game. A huge variety of games coan be made off of a single engine, as is often the case with Indy games, so this point is invalid.

KristallNacht wrote:the campaign, while being unique in presentation hasn't actually been shown to be all that large.
How would you know?

From what I can see, it is at least as big as Halo 3's campaign.

KristallNacht wrote:firefight isn't anything new, its only new for halo.
But it's doen better than in any other game.


KristallNacht wrote:a more accurate representation is Halo 3: ODST is no more an expansion for Halo 3 than Half Life 2: episode 2 was an expansion to Half life 2: episode 1.
From what I've heard of the two games, that is a very over-exaggerated comparison.

KristallNacht wrote:but the difference is that episode 2 was cheaper than $60 and it was part of the orange box
Just because Valve makes their games cheap doesn't mean that ODST sucks.

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Post by KristallNacht on Thu Sep 17, 2009 11:31 am

CivBase wrote:
Just because Valve makes their games cheap doesn't mean that ODST sucks.

but the trend of decreasing quality in halo games does
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Post by Dud Doodoo on Thu Sep 17, 2009 12:31 pm

Decreasing quality? Are you another one of the idiots that thinks Halo 3 was worse than Halo 2?

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Post by KristallNacht on Thu Sep 17, 2009 12:35 pm

single player, pretty much yeah, story was way worse.

multiplayer improved but only simple mechanics really made the difference.

and Halo: CE was still better than both overall, and Halowars was the worst

so Halo > Halo 2 > Halo 3 > Halo Wars > Halo 3: ODST
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Post by Cheese on Thu Sep 17, 2009 12:56 pm

I disagree.

I replayed Halo 3 after a year, and it has to be one of my favourite games. Perhaps even better in my mind than Halo:CE which I have played to death.

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Post by Dud Doodoo on Thu Sep 17, 2009 1:28 pm

KristallNacht wrote:single player, pretty much yeah, story was way worse.

multiplayer improved but only simple mechanics really made the difference.

and Halo: CE was still better than both overall, and Halowars was the worst

so Halo > Halo 2 > Halo 3 > Halo Wars > Halo 3: ODST
Single player wise the story was bland, but the campaign itself was far more fun than Halo 2s.

I have said several times that Halo 3 multiplayer is the most replayable feature of any game I seen. It has been 2 years now and I am STILL playing it.

Also, I don't think anyone here actually considers Halo Wars part of the Halo verse, and since it was not made by Bungie the only REAL resemblance to a halo game it has is the title.

On top of all that, you have not played Halo ODST, so you cannot judge whether or not it is good. From everyone that I have spoken to who has played the game I have heard that it was better than Halo 3, and after spending time reviewing gameplay footage and articles I can honestly say that I looks better than every Halo game made since the first.

Halo CE > Halo 2 < Halo 3

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Post by BBJynne on Thu Sep 17, 2009 2:45 pm

I liked halo3 more than halo2 except for the flood parts

halo 3 has very very very bad flood and they shouldn't be in it I think just cause they're so bad

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Post by Cheese on Thu Sep 17, 2009 3:00 pm

I think all the flood only levels were sub-par on all Halo games.

Except of course Guilty Spark.

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Post by A_Bearded_Swede on Thu Sep 17, 2009 3:08 pm

Cheese wrote:I think all the flood only levels were sub-par on all Halo games.

Except of course Guilty Spark.
Two Betrayals?
The Maw?

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Post by Gauz on Thu Sep 17, 2009 3:08 pm

Halo Wars will NOT be better than ODST.
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Post by BBJynne on Thu Sep 17, 2009 3:12 pm

Baconsen wrote:
Cheese wrote:I think all the flood only levels were sub-par on all Halo games.

Except of course Guilty Spark.
Two Betrayals?
The Maw?

both of those had covenant and sentinels in them as well as flood

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