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Post by BBJynne Sun Aug 09, 2009 11:07 pm

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Post by Gauz Sun Aug 09, 2009 11:23 pm

tiny tim wrote:The purpose of life is the propagation of the species.
As Ziggy stated in the CB, that in itself is pointless.

If reproduction is solution to death, then why bother? Without mankind there couldn't be death of mankind, so in a sense it is pointless.
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Post by BBJynne Sun Aug 09, 2009 11:25 pm

There is life after birth.

I'm sure of it.

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Post by Rotaretilbo Mon Aug 10, 2009 1:38 am

The answer is clearly 42.
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Post by Death no More Mon Aug 10, 2009 6:28 am

kslidz wrote:

progression takes time
outside of time their is no progression
time is not inside of time
therefore time does not progress
our perception IN time progresses


no progression means that it will not change
if time does not change then it is as complete as it will ever be and if it is complete we cannot change it
if we cannot change anything we have no choice

because choice requires change
No it progresses, if there was no progression in time then we would not age since to age it takes progression through time. We age perfectly so you are wrong there. Time can never be complete, its just impossible. Theirs no way it will just stop and finish. Time is everlasting, even when every particle in the universe has been destroyed(which is impossible in itself since atoms cannot be destroyed) time will still go on. The last one is false you can always change something.
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Post by MrX Mon Aug 10, 2009 9:15 am

there is no purpose in life

we have just evolved into what we are today

all science
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Post by kslidz Mon Aug 10, 2009 9:43 am

Death no more wrote:
kslidz wrote:

progression takes time
outside of time their is no progression
time is not inside of time
therefore time does not progress
our perception IN time progresses

no progression means that it will not change
if time does not change then it is as complete as it will ever be and if it is complete we cannot change it
if we cannot change anything we have no choice

because choice requires change
No it progresses, if there was no progression in time then we would not age since to age it takes progression through time. We age perfectly so you are wrong there. Time can never be complete, its just impossible. Theirs no way it will just stop and finish. Time is everlasting, even when every particle in the universe has been destroyed(which is impossible in itself since atoms cannot be destroyed) time will still go on. The last one is false you can always change something.


we progress through time
i said that if i had said there is no progression period you would be correct but i did not

no our souls our perception of time progresses but time in and of itself does not

time is like a rode we are like a car on the road the road itself is finished there is no changing it you are the car that follows that road and you see every thing on the road as you pass by
as you approach things on the road they dont just appear they have always been there

therefore your future body in the future is already there you just havent experienced it

and please answer this question
since progression, and change take time then how can something that is outside of time progress or change

(time is not in itself)

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Post by Nocbl2 Mon Aug 10, 2009 10:26 am

Life just happened. Nothing did anything to stop it; nothing to help it prosper. My theory is: Everything exists. If only for a moment, it is there. Boom, motha fuckas.
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Post by CivBase Mon Aug 10, 2009 10:55 am

Here's a question for you guys to debate: Does the answer to anything of philosophical nature really matter?
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Post by KrAzY Mon Aug 10, 2009 11:01 am

only if you think it matters


in the end... no... as in the end we will all be dead and the answers won't matter


its like stealing the answers to a test from 3 years ago
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Post by Gauz Mon Aug 10, 2009 11:20 am

A purpose is given to us, and I don't think humans can give themselves a purpose. So we don't have a purpose unless you count the ones we give our self.
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Post by kslidz Mon Aug 10, 2009 11:36 am

well the purpose of life is to glorify God Smile

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Post by Gauz Mon Aug 10, 2009 11:39 am

Religion interferes with this topic.
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Post by kslidz Mon Aug 10, 2009 11:55 am

how so just because you dont believe doesnt mean it is not true

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Post by Gauz Mon Aug 10, 2009 11:56 am

I never said I didn't believe in any god, but currently I am viewing this at a scienctific standpoint.
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Post by Zaki90 Mon Aug 10, 2009 12:00 pm

Ziggy, change the subject before we all erupt into a god's existence war that leads to an eventual uber flame war and tears up the space time continuum.

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Post by kslidz Mon Aug 10, 2009 12:03 pm

ok well from a scientific standpoint

there is no purpose of man besides the one nature gives us

to reproduce

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Post by tiny tim Mon Aug 10, 2009 12:16 pm

the religious wing nut agrees with me!

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Post by kslidz Mon Aug 10, 2009 12:30 pm

wing nut?

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Post by CivBase Mon Aug 10, 2009 2:06 pm

How about this: Purpose cannot exist without free will.
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Post by kslidz Mon Aug 10, 2009 2:15 pm

nope that would be incorrect a robot has a purpose a computer has a purpose
so...

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Post by Gauz Mon Aug 10, 2009 2:27 pm

How is there a purpose? What makes reproduction a purpose? Reproduction is a choice, we don't have to reproduce. Survival is a null purpose, as I already explained.
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Post by CivBase Mon Aug 10, 2009 2:49 pm

kslidz wrote:nope that would be incorrect a robot has a purpose a computer has a purpose
so...
Indeed, robots have a purpose for us. However, if we take this from a non-religious standpoint, there is nobody higher than us for us to have purpose for. The only way to have purpose for ourselves is to have the free will to fulfill this purpose. Otherwise, it's not a purpose but a milestone.
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Post by kslidz Mon Aug 10, 2009 2:53 pm

then in a solely scientific standpoint we have no purpose because we have no choice

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Post by Angatar Mon Aug 10, 2009 2:58 pm

We have choice... I can stab myself, my brother, or both.
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