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Post by Divine Virus on Tue Nov 24, 2009 12:37 pm

I get the feeling that this thread has been derailed.

Then again I'm sure you guys don't give a crap about CnC4. Unlike me. Can't wait. ^_^

Whatevs.
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Post by Ringleader on Tue Nov 24, 2009 12:50 pm

Right now it looks pretty bad.

I wonder if they got Dave Pottinger to fix it up...
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Post by Divine Virus on Tue Nov 24, 2009 12:54 pm

Ringleader wrote:Right now it looks pretty bad.

Not really. I'm diggin' the new units and the crawler looks like fun-on-a-bun. 5v5 gameplay. Huge maps.

Plus, MORE KANE!!!
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Post by Death no More on Wed Nov 25, 2009 7:20 am

Ringleader wrote:I wonder if they got Dave Pottinger to fix it up...
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Post by Gold Spartan on Wed Nov 25, 2009 7:35 am

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Vigil wrote:Nor do you understand the pure evil that is known as Blizzard

Nor do you understand the fact that they have made probably the most balanced rts in the history of gaming. They have a reputation for making good quality games and they havent disappointed anyone yet.
you my friend, have odviously never heard of the massive pile of shit known as Warcraft 3.
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Post by Nocbl2 on Wed Nov 25, 2009 9:18 am

I r wanting CnC 4
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Post by Death no More on Wed Nov 25, 2009 12:46 pm

Nocbl2 wrote:I r wanting CnC 4
WHY!? The game looks worse than halowars, no tiberium and no base building.
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Post by Divine Virus on Wed Nov 25, 2009 12:48 pm

Death no more wrote:
Nocbl2 wrote:I r wanting CnC 4
WHY!? The game looks worse than halowars, no tiberium and no base building.

Whoa there Death. No just no. There is tiberium and there is base building.

So yeah, can't wait for the game.
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Post by Gauz on Wed Nov 25, 2009 1:34 pm

Meh. I don't even have my gaming laptop yet, so if I do get it i'll be getting SCII rather this.
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Post by Elabajaba on Wed Nov 25, 2009 1:36 pm

RockaHolicGameR wrote:
Death no more wrote:
Nocbl2 wrote:I r wanting CnC 4
WHY!? The game looks worse than halowars, no tiberium and no base building.

Whoa there Death. No just no. There is tiberium and there is base building.

So yeah, can't wait for the game.
Halowars had "basebuilding" too.

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Post by Divine Virus on Wed Nov 25, 2009 1:39 pm

What gave you the idea that it's socket bases? In the trailer you can clearly see a fully made base not restricted like you think.
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Post by Onyxknight on Wed Nov 25, 2009 1:46 pm

this looks cool
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Post by Vigil on Thu Nov 26, 2009 5:24 am

RockaHolicGameR wrote:What gave you the idea that it's socket bases? In the trailer you can clearly see a fully made base not restricted like you think.

I'm still not sold on having an MCV that can shoot back at me.

MCV's have been used in offense moves before, Hell RA3 has them used as damage sponges, as they take up the flak and can crush early game units easily, but a MCV with guns going toe to toe with Avatars?

Could make turtling and expansions much easier.

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Post by Divine Virus on Thu Nov 26, 2009 12:06 pm

Vigil wrote:
RockaHolicGameR wrote:What gave you the idea that it's socket bases? In the trailer you can clearly see a fully made base not restricted like you think.

I'm still not sold on having an MCV that can shoot back at me.

MCV's have been used in offense moves before, Hell RA3 has them used as damage sponges, as they take up the flak and can crush early game units easily, but a MCV with guns going toe to toe with Avatars?

Could make turtling and expansions much easier.

Yes they can shoot but that's only when they are in Structure form I belive. Plus, I don't think an MCV could go toe-to-toe with some avatars. They just showed that in the trailer for the sake of showing action on the battlefield.
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Post by Vigil on Thu Nov 26, 2009 12:10 pm

True, But I don't think construction vehicle should have offensive weaponry, makes the point of base defences a little suspect.

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Post by Divine Virus on Thu Nov 26, 2009 12:16 pm

Vigil wrote:True, But I don't think construction vehicle should have offensive weaponry, makes the point of base defences a little suspect.

Also true but they are going for a different play style I belive. If you wanted to be more offensive with your crawler you can. If you wanted to be more deffensive with it, you can. The other units in the game should be balanced enough to counter this.

Perhaps the Crawler is easy prey to certain units so you'd be taking that risk when you set it off and leave your base. Or, maybe the cannons and stuff on the crawler are slow to fire or have to be charged or something along the lines I'm making that give it that weakness and not making to over powering like you think. IMO.
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Post by Vigil on Thu Nov 26, 2009 1:01 pm

You Expect Ea not to make an Overpowered unit even though, The mammoth Tanks was seriously overpowered and Air was king in Kane's Wrath.

That's a pretty faint hope.

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Post by Divine Virus on Thu Nov 26, 2009 1:13 pm

Actually that's not true. Mammonths and Air are very easy to counter. There's plenty of anti-air and enough rocket squads and shock troopers and disintegrators are enough to put mammonths out. Even epic units.

Plus it's all about using your micro and abilities to your best advantage.

There's not one thing or unit in CnC3 or Kane's wrath or RA3 that is over powered. The only way they are over powered is if your not prepared for them. And is that's the case, that's your own fault not EA's or the creators.
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Post by Vigil on Thu Nov 26, 2009 1:18 pm

Oh Mammoths are. Epsically in C&C3. The only thing that can kill them is air.

Kane's Warth Air is pretty easy to counter, but like Halo Wars they can easily spam it and have enough speed and power to avoid your counters.

I can kill virtually anything you threw against me, the point is it's not easy to do so in some situations. Think about what would happen if you did an early game rush with the crawler with some Anti Infantry with you? They'd have a hard time dealing with you.

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Post by Divine Virus on Thu Nov 26, 2009 1:35 pm

Vigil wrote:Oh Mammoths are. Epsically in C&C3. The only thing that can kill them is air.

Kane's Warth Air is pretty easy to counter, but like Halo Wars they can easily spam it and have enough speed and power to avoid your counters.

I can kill virtually anything you threw against me, the point is it's not easy to do so in some situations. Think about what would happen if you did an early game rush with the crawler with some Anti Infantry with you? They'd have a hard time dealing with you.

Mammonths are not. They are easy to counter, Air is not the only thing no way. And again. It's your own fault if you let them spam units. It's called scouting. RTS 101.

And with your little scenario there, people do that all the time in RA3 and it's still a risky move. Imagine if you lost your crawler. Now what? I imagine it would take a good while to get a new one out of a factory and by that time your oppenent would be at your door step. And if your built a small base before you sent out your crawler you would have to build very little to make rush time.

Either way, your crawler rush may be somewhat powerful but it has its consequences and is a risky first move. If you can pull it off then hoo-ray. But then someone will find a counter for it.
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Post by Vigil on Thu Nov 26, 2009 1:46 pm

Don't Patronise me.

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Post by Divine Virus on Thu Nov 26, 2009 1:49 pm

Vigil wrote:Don't Patronise me.

I'm not patronising you. I'm giving legitimate counters to your legitimate reasons.

That's all. Love you Vigil. Very Happy
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Post by Death no More on Thu Nov 26, 2009 5:39 pm

RockaHolicGameR wrote:
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Nocbl2 wrote:I r wanting CnC 4
WHY!? The game looks worse than halowars, no tiberium and no base building.

Whoa there Death. No just no. There is tiberium and there is base building.

So yeah, can't wait for the game.


Hitler says otherwise.
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Post by Divine Virus on Thu Nov 26, 2009 5:52 pm

Hmmm. I never knew that they were actually doing that.

Either way it still does not scare me away. I'm not affraid of change. Sure I love the old CnC style but I'm not resistant of this.

The games fine.
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Post by Gold Spartan on Thu Nov 26, 2009 5:59 pm

GOD FUCKING DAMN EA! DESTROYING WESTWOOD! Now we get THIS shit. FUCK THIS!
No base building and resource gathering fucked up Dawn of War 2. It's going to fuck up Tiberian Twilight as well.
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