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Post by Gold Spartan on Wed Jul 08, 2009 2:41 pm

http://tech.yahoo.com/blogs/null/146051

Google has done it! It's trying to compete with Windows!
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Post by Death no More on Wed Jul 08, 2009 2:43 pm

Gold Spartan5 wrote:http://tech.yahoo.com/blogs/null/146051

Google has done it! It's trying to compete with Windows!
Not sure if I like this, but hopefully this OS will kill the mac, hopefully.
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Post by CivBase on Wed Jul 08, 2009 2:47 pm

It'll fail. A: They're basing it off of Linux, which is so unpopular that I have yet to see one in action. And B: Google Chrome is a suckish browser, so why would anyone want to go with a full OS?

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Post by Toaster on Wed Jul 08, 2009 2:59 pm

CivBase wrote:It'll fail. A: They're basing it off of Linux, which is so unpopular that I have yet to see one in action.

Linux is unpopular because it is difficult to use for the mainstream consumer. It is also unpopular because nobody knows what the hell it is. The return rate on all those linux netbooks HP started putting out was something like 60%. People loaded it up, didn't know what the hell it was, and sent it back.

The difference here is that:

A: It's google. People know google, and they trust the name to be a provider of quality software. They will be more open and comfortable by something with the google name.

B: It won't be like linux, in the sense that it won't require a good deal of knowledge/experience to get working on a consumer-ready level. Much like something along the lines of Firefox, it will be well equipped from the start, at which point you will be able to add onto it. This is google. they know how to make user-friendly software.

C: It's heavily based on the concept of Cloud computing, which makes this an extremely beneficial OS for netbooks, and other low-end mainstream devices with little processing power of their own.

This is not a rival to Windows or OS X. It's not going to be an operating system that you will want to install on your home computer. It is a simpler OS for netbooks and other low-end products, and it will probably be very successful in that market.

Civ wrote:Google Chrome is a suckish browser, so why would anyone want to go with a full OS?

What the hell man? Chrome is the fastest browser on the market, and it's fucking great.
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Post by Gold Spartan on Wed Jul 08, 2009 3:02 pm

CivBase wrote:And B: Google Chrome is a suckish browser, so why would anyone want to go with a full OS?
WTH? Google Chrome is an awesome browser.
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Post by Cheese on Wed Jul 08, 2009 3:09 pm

I also endorse Chrome.

So it apparently collects user data for personal adverts. But it lets me know the best price on viagra dammit!!

(But in all seriousness if you are affected by an internet ad you deserve to be ripped off).

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Post by Death no More on Wed Jul 08, 2009 3:11 pm

Cheese wrote:

(But in all seriousness if you are affected by an internet ad you deserve to be ripped off).
OMG IM ONLY ONE CLICK AWAY FROM WINNING THE NATIONAL SWEDISH LOTTERY!!!!!!
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Post by CivBase on Wed Jul 08, 2009 3:15 pm

ReconToaster wrote:
CivBase wrote:It'll fail. A: They're basing it off of Linux, which is so unpopular that I have yet to see one in action.
Linux is unpopular because it is difficult to use for the mainstream consumer. It is also unpopular because nobody knows what the hell it is. The return rate on all those linux netbooks HP started putting out was something like 60%. People loaded it up, didn't know what the hell it was, and sent it back.
I didn't say Linux was a bad system. Like I said, I've never used it.

ReconToaster wrote:The difference here is that:

A: It's google. People know google, and they trust the name to be a provider of quality software. They will be more open and comfortable by something with the google name.

B: It won't be like linux, in the sense that it won't require a good deal of knowledge/experience to get working on a consumer-ready level. Much like something along the lines of Firefox, it will be well equipped from the start, at which point you will be able to add onto it. This is google. they know how to make user-friendly software.

C: It's heavily based on the concept of Cloud computing, which makes this an extremely beneficial OS for netbooks, and other low-end mainstream devices with little processing power of their own.
Good points.

ReconToaster wrote:This is not a rival to Windows or OS X. It's not going to be an operating system that you will want to install on your home computer. It is a simpler OS for netbooks and other low-end products, and it will probably be very successful in that market.
Again, good point.

ReconToaster wrote:What the hell man? Chrome is the fastest browser on the market, and it's fucking great.
I've heard nothing but trash about it.

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Post by Gold Spartan on Wed Jul 08, 2009 3:16 pm

You should use it before you say it's an awful browser.
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Post by CivBase on Wed Jul 08, 2009 3:22 pm

I can't try everything. Sometimes you have to judge by what someone else says. Perhaps that someone else was wrong. It happens.

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Post by Gold Spartan on Wed Jul 08, 2009 3:23 pm

It's free. Not like ETW.
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Post by capn qwerty on Wed Jul 08, 2009 3:25 pm

ETW?
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Post by Gold Spartan on Wed Jul 08, 2009 3:26 pm

Doh Empire Total War, which Civ said was awful based on the demo.
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Post by capn qwerty on Wed Jul 08, 2009 3:26 pm

Oh. I was under the assumption we were discussing browsers.
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Post by Gold Spartan on Wed Jul 08, 2009 3:29 pm

I was using it as an example.
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Post by CivBase on Wed Jul 08, 2009 3:29 pm

Gold Spartan5 wrote:Doh Empire Total War, which Civ said was awful based on the demo.
I stand by what I said. A&A had a fun board game feature too, but I hated the fighting part. In the end, I really didn't like the game. Why should ETW be any different?

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Post by Gold Spartan on Wed Jul 08, 2009 3:30 pm

It's 50 bucks, Chrome is a free download.
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Post by KristallNacht on Wed Jul 08, 2009 4:48 pm

Cheese wrote:I also endorse Chrome.

So it apparently collects user data for personal adverts. But it lets me know the best price on viagra dammit!!

(But in all seriousness if you are affected by an internet ad you deserve to be ripped off).

it asks you if you want it to collect that data lol

and Google is still the one large web source that maintains its privacy policy, even against government subpeonas.


I hope it isn't just a netbook OS. Google, I'm sure, has the power to make this thing super powerful. I'll definately check it out.
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Post by Dud Doodoo on Thu Jul 09, 2009 12:34 pm

Gold Spartan5 wrote:Doh Empire Total War, which Civ said was awful based on the demo.
Then Civ is now my mortal enemy.

Back to Chrome. I love Google. I love everything they make. I love Chrome, it's fast and has a perfect user interface. I knew the OS was coming, just like I know the inevitable Google console system is coming. Google is destined to take over the world, and they will. And as I'm sure you have already guessed, I will be happy about it.

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Gold Spartan5 wrote:Doh Empire Total War, which Civ said was awful based on the demo.
I stand by what I said. A&A had a fun board game feature too, but I hated the fighting part. In the end, I really didn't like the game. Why should ETW be any different?
The game is amazing and epic. The common glitches and the unstable AI are it's only real downfalls.

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Post by CivBase on Thu Jul 09, 2009 12:39 pm

I disagree with you about ETW, but this isn't the place for it.

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Post by Toaster on Thu Jul 09, 2009 1:37 pm

CivBase wrote:I disagree with you about ETW, but this isn't the place for it.

You're really hurting yourself here Civ.

Also, you couldn't POSSIBLY be comparing Empire to a shitty game based on a board game and published by Atari could you?

Dud wrote:Back to Chrome. I love Google. I love everything they make. I love Chrome, it's fast and has a perfect user interface. I knew the OS was coming, just like I know the inevitable Google console system is coming. Google is destined to take over the world, and they will. And as I'm sure you have already guessed, I will be happy about it.

Google's buisiness model is too stuck up and controlling to give them any chance of controlling the world some day. With the Android, they have the same paranoia when it comes to branding as Apple has always obnoxiously projected. Google is the back-bone of the internet, but they're still pretty tiny in the hardware world. I think this new OS will be VERY successful in the netbook market though, as long as Google is very open about letting third parties use it.

There won't ever be a google console, because Google's strength is in networking and huge-ass server farms. They might get into hosting cloud-based game services, but there won't be any google console. Consoles won't exist by the time they get into the business.
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Post by KristallNacht on Thu Jul 09, 2009 4:14 pm

ReconToaster wrote:

Google's buisiness model is too stuck up and controlling to give them any chance of controlling the world

how so?

Google's business model is probably the least controlling of any company out there.

If you notice, they don't make things to make money, they make things to make the user experience better. That's how they've been. And it shows. Hi-quality free content.
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Post by noir on Thu Jul 09, 2009 4:15 pm

So... thus, we move from one massive company to another. Linux, my friends.
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Post by Ukurse on Thu Jul 09, 2009 4:31 pm

So what, Now OS has 2 really bad browsers.
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Post by KristallNacht on Thu Jul 09, 2009 4:34 pm

Ukurse wrote:So what, Now OS has 2 really bad browsers.

what?
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