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Post by KristallNacht on Wed Jul 01, 2009 12:30 am

to the whole kis thing lol


Munchausen by Internet (a.k.a. The Sob Story Teller)


These are the people who lurk around innocently enough, and then, one day, tragedy strikes. Their dog, or parent, or maybe a close friend died. Maybe the poster themselves found out they have a terminal disease. And unless you're on 4chan, the group will generally rally around and shower them with sympathy. You send this person your prayers and well wishes, maybe a few dozen kitten pictures and you hope they will get through it.

Then, a few months later, another tragedy strikes them. Their best friend was raped, or paralyzed in an accident, or both. A few months after that, their father dies. Again.


"I can't wait to tell the Internet."

Soon it becomes apparent that they are either living under an ancient Egyptian curse, or they're making it all up.

It's so common that somebody else has already coined the sarcastic term for it: Munchausen by Internet.

In Real Life it's Called...

Munchausen Syndrome.

The basis of need here is the same as the attention-seekers above, only these people will only settle for the positive and sympathetic attention that comes with being sick or some other kind of distress. You know, without the whole "actually being sick" thing to bog them down.


Yeah, my house is on fire right now, it totally sucks.

In real life they can keep it up for years, because society doesn't make it easy to be skeptical in these situations. If you cast doubt on them and then later discover it was in fact true, suddenly you're the biggest douche on the planet.

So Why Does it Happen on the Internet?

As easy as it is to pull off in real life, it's 10 time easier online where there's no simple way to fact-check the claims. So it doesn't take a balls-out liar or con man to pull it off. Hell, all you need to do is know how to type, and you have access to that same outpouring of sympathy all Munchausen sufferers get addicted to.

A famous case of cyberMuching was that of Kaycee Nicole, a 19-year-old with Leukemia who turned out to have been created by 40-year-old Debbie Swenson. The Kaycee character posted daily for two years in a online journal about her struggle to live with her illness. She then "died" and only when there was no funeral people did people figure out it had all been a hoax.

And even then, Swenson could keep doing it elsewhere if she so pleased. She may be out doing it right now. On the anonymous Internet, you can create a dozen different characters and when one of them starts to get boring the "parent" can just kill them off. This is clinically known as the LOST approach.
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Post by Carcarius on Wed Jul 01, 2009 12:34 am

Conspiracy: Kislany= 40 year old, attention seeking, sympathy wanting, fat woman?
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Post by Toaster on Wed Jul 01, 2009 12:45 am

I thought we weren't talking about this NT?

I think we have pretty positively determined that Kislany managed to earn our sympathy, posing as three different people over the course of the last couple months. I was skeptical of the things she said about her father, but I fell for the seeming legitimacy of her other accounts. I just imagined she was some young girl with a shitty home life who used the internet to get seek much needed attention. Anyways, she is obviously troubled in one way or another. Lets just let it go.


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Post by BBJynne on Wed Jul 01, 2009 12:46 am

KristallNacht wrote:seems relevant to the whole kis thing lol

because YOU of all people should definitely be bringing that up again

/sarcasm

*article*

this will not end well...

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Post by Ukurse on Wed Jul 01, 2009 12:56 am

No forty year old would waste their time on a stupid Pointless Awesome forum like this.
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Post by Gauz on Wed Jul 01, 2009 1:28 am

I really don't care

I don't know if I should be dissapointed... or ecstatic about that..
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Post by Cheese on Wed Jul 01, 2009 3:29 am

Yay cracked!!

I thought this when reading the article as well Razz

You internet asperger's syndrome you.

I kid, but 'feeling sorry for someone's online persona is stupid.' Come on!!

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Post by KristallNacht on Wed Jul 01, 2009 5:18 am

Cheese wrote:
You internet asperger's syndrome you.

when I read that I thought "this is probably what people think of me...oh wait no...i'm amazing"
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Post by Ringleader on Wed Jul 01, 2009 7:22 am

I guess the only way to settle this is proof.


Unobtainable proof
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Post by Ascendant Justice on Wed Jul 01, 2009 10:45 am

Oh shit would I be angry if Kis was Debbie Swenson. I'd probably laugh a little about it later but for the first...oh I don't know, hours or days, I'd be pretty pissed.
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Post by Lord Pheonix on Wed Jul 01, 2009 2:36 pm

KristallNacht wrote:
Cheese wrote:
You internet asperger's syndrome you.

when I read that I thought "this is probably what people think of me...oh wait no...i'm amazing"



Your alone in that thought
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Post by JumpingJet on Wed Jul 01, 2009 2:45 pm

I wont rnkt on about it but and i am not going to say "Told you so" as it just doesnt feel right to say it. But all i am going to say is this.

I guess i just needed the proof.

My idea, which turns out to be others ideas aswell, just needed this evidence.

We can not gain all the "Real" proof as its the internet but this should be enough.
I know some of you like Gauz arnt realy bothered but speaking from my point of view i didnt just want to leave it open as for people to be thinking "Yeh, so what maybe she is or isnt" I wanted for people to realise and fully understand.

Anyway, Thats me and nice going there NT.
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Post by Dud Doodoo on Wed Jul 01, 2009 2:46 pm

Lord Pheonix wrote:
KristallNacht wrote:
Cheese wrote:
You internet asperger's syndrome you.

when I read that I thought "this is probably what people think of me...oh wait no...i'm amazing"



Your alone in that thought

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Post by Lord Pheonix on Wed Jul 01, 2009 2:47 pm

JumpingJet wrote:I wont rnkt on about it but and i am not going to say "Told you so" as it just doesnt feel right to say it. But all i am going to say is this.

I guess i just needed the proof.

My idea, which turns out to be others ideas aswell, just needed this evidence.

We can not gain all the "Real" proof as its the internet but this should be enough.
I know some of you like Gauz arnt realy bothered but speaking from my point of view i didnt just want to leave it open as for people to be thinking "Yeh, so what maybe she is or isnt" I wanted for people to realise and fully understand.

Anyway, Thats me and nice going there NT.


.........there was nothing proven

at all
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Post by JumpingJet on Wed Jul 01, 2009 2:51 pm

It didnt say this was proof i called it eveidence if you noticed. I said we need proof, but i didnt call this proof i said we needed this evidence.

When a police solve a crime the collect evidence before they can prove anything.

I think you LP are in the wrong this time.
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Post by Lord Pheonix on Wed Jul 01, 2009 2:55 pm

You don't really NEED anything, you could just...I don't know........let it go?




But we both know you won't do that.

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Post by JumpingJet on Wed Jul 01, 2009 2:59 pm

At least we understand something, hey LP?
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Post by Dud Doodoo on Wed Jul 01, 2009 3:02 pm

Why even make this thread? All it will do is make Kislany upset, what else were you trying to accomplish besides being an ass?

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Post by BBJynne on Wed Jul 01, 2009 3:04 pm

Dud Doodoo wrote:Why even make this thread? All it will do is make Kislany upset, what else were you trying to accomplish besides being an ass?

I think that's his goal in life

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Post by JumpingJet on Wed Jul 01, 2009 3:09 pm

Its her fault for doing this in the first place.....
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Post by Lord Pheonix on Wed Jul 01, 2009 3:21 pm

IF shes doing it



Otherwise your a dick



if she is doing it



Your still a dick




hate you either way

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Post by KristallNacht on Wed Jul 01, 2009 3:24 pm

eh, I was reading shoutwire. this came up. and it 'seemed relevant'
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Post by Dud Doodoo on Wed Jul 01, 2009 3:36 pm

You should consider people and think things through a bit before you post something like this.

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Post by KristallNacht on Wed Jul 01, 2009 3:47 pm

hmm......done...and done...



still posted.
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Post by Ringleader on Wed Jul 01, 2009 6:24 pm

new rule, proof or it didn't happen, or just don't post it here.
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