The point of church and such?

What's the point?

Come in. Sit down. Stand up. Sing. Pray. Listen. Stand. Pray. Sing. Sit. Eat stale bread. Get drunk on wine. leave. Blarg.

Church: you're doing it wrong


or else your church is terrible

THEY POINT OF GOING TO CHURCH IS TO MEET WITH OTHER CHRISTIANS AND GROW TOGETHER IN YOUR RELATIONSHIP WITH CHRIST.

IT IS MY OPINION THAT THE MEANING OF CHURCH HAS BEEN POLLUTED AND CHANGED FROM IT'S ORIGINAL PURPOSE OVER THE CENTURIES. ALL CHRISTIANS ARE GOD'S CHURCH. THE CHURCH WOULD NORMALLY MEET AND DISCUSS PERIODICALLY. EVENTUALLY WHEN THE CHURCH CAME OUT OF HIDING THEY WOULD BUILD BUILDINGS SPECIFICALLY FOR MEETING ON SUNDAYS. EVENTUALLY THESE BUILDINGS BECAME KNOWN AS CHURCHES, AND ALL OF A SUDDEN CHURCH BECAME A PLACE INSTEAD OF A PEOPLE. IN MODERN SOCIETY PEOPLE OFTEN GO TO CHURCH BECAUSE THEIR PARENTS WENT TO CHURCH, AND THEY FORGET THE REASON THE CHURCH IS THERE. YOU AREN'T MEANT TO DRESS UP AND PLAY CHURCH EVERY SUNDAY MORNING BECAUSE YOU ARE A GOOD CITIZEN, YOU SHOULD GO THERE BECAUSE YOU WANT TO KNOW AND GET CLOSER TO YOUR GOD. IF THIS IS NOT THE REASON YOU GO, OR YOU SIMPLY DO NOT GET ANYTHING OUT OF IT, THEN THERE IS NO POINT ON GOING.

THERE WAS A POINT IN THE BIBLE WHERE GOD BECAME SO DISGUSTED WITH JEWISH CHURCH THAT HE TOLD THEM HE WOULD FROM NOW ON IGNORE THEIR PRAYERS AND TURN AWAY THEIR OFFERINGS. HE WAS DISGUSTED WITH HOW THEY SIMPLY WENT THROUGH THE MOTIONS WITH NO SINCERITY OR MEANING BEHIND THEM. I FEEL THIS IS THE WAY IT IS WITH MOST PEOPLE THAT GO TO CHURCH.

POST IN ALL CAPS IN HONOR OF BILLY MAYS.

INB4 RELIGION IS BOGUS

WHOA, I ACTUALLY AGREE WITH DUD THERE
I DID NOT KNOW WE HELD SIMILAR IDEALS BEFORE THIS MOMENT

BB wrote:Church: you're doing it wrong

or else your church is terrible

Oh that's right, he left out the overwhelming spiritual feeling of expressing your personal relationship with God. WHAT A DEPRIVED FOOL HE MUST BE!

Nob wrote:What's the point?

If you're a kid, the point is to be maliciously indoctrinated with 'Veggie Tales.'

If you're an adult, the point is to be comforted about the world with ideas of self-importance, equality, and the ever-wonderful fantasy of 'the after-life.'

There's also something in there about morals.... but fuck morals, this is capitalism!

I THINK RECON SHOULD NOT ATTEMPT TO BAIT PEOPLE INTO STARTING YET ANOTHER ARGUMENT ABOUT THIS ISSUE


ALSO, YOUR RESPONSE TO MY QUOTE WAS INCORRECT; THAT IS NOT WHAT I BELIEVE

Recon, no, just no. WE DONT NEED ANOTHER RELIGOUS THREAD!!!

BBJynne wrote:I THINK RECON SHOULD NOT ATTEMPT TO BAIT PEOPLE INTO STARTING YET ANOTHER ARGUMENT ABOUT THIS ISSUE

What do you mean? He asked what the point of church was, and I responded with my opinion on the subject.

Had he posted something along the lines of "I LOVE CHURCH," I would not have responded in such a way. However, because he asked, I told him how I feel.

With what do you disagree about in my post? The part about bringing children into the faith by (often) utilizing veggie tales? The part about offering comforting ideas to its community in order to improve people's perceptions of the world around them? The part about Church promoting moral behavior?

I don't see where you find offense.

THE PART TALKING TO NOC WAS OKAY

BBJynne wrote:THE PART TALKING TO NOC WAS OKAY

Well he did leave that part out...

OMFG I JUST WATCHED VEGGIE TALES TODAY!!!

I LOVED VEGGIE TALES!

VEGGIE TALES WAS ANNOYING



TH POINT OF CHURCH IS TO SHOW YOUR FAITH AND COMMITTMENT TO THE RELIGION, AS WELL AS MEET OTHERS WHO ARE PART OF THE RELIGION. ALMOST ALL RELEGIONS HAVE A "CHURCH" OR OTHER GET TOGETHER OF THAT NATURE IN WHICH PEOPLE CAN GET TO KNOW AND BECOME FRIENDS WITH OTHERS OF THE SAME FAITH.

WTF is Veggie tales

VEGGIE TAAAEEAALES VEGGIE TAAAAAEEAAALES VEGGIE TALES. THERSE NEVER EVER EVER BEEN A SHOW LIKE VEGGIE TALES. THERSE NEVER EVER EVER BEEN A SHOW LIKE VEGGIE TALES

Nevermind

Get closer to god? How do you get closer to god by doing nothing?

Imagine trying to get close to someone, whom you never talk to. Your method of getting close to them is not talking to them some more. Pretty hard in my opinion.

x Gauz x wrote:Get closer to god? How do you get closer to god by doing nothing?

Imagine trying to get close to someone, whom you never talk to. Your method of getting close to them is not talking to them some more. Pretty hard in my opinion.

Are you trying to tell me that prayer is not a working method of getting closer to God? I AM OFFENDED GOOD SIR!

ReconToaster wrote:

x Gauz x wrote:Get closer to god? How do you get closer to god by doing nothing?

Imagine trying to get close to someone, whom you never talk to. Your method of getting close to them is not talking to them some more. Pretty hard in my opinion.

Are you trying to tell me that prayer is not a working method of getting closer to God? I AM OFFENDED GOOD SIR!

Yes, yes I am..

I DEFY YOU

NO. WHEN WE PRAY WE ARE TALKING TO GOD, AND WHEN WE DO HIS WILL AND GLORIFY HIM WE ARE BECOMING CLOSER TO HIM. WHEN WE LEARN ABOUT HIS WORD AND THE LIFE OF HIS SON JESUS WE GROW CLOSER TO HIM. AS IT'S BEEN SAID MANY TIMES BEFORE, CHRISTIANITY IS ALL ABOUT HAVING A RELATIONSHIP WITH THE ONE WHO MADE YOU.

@GAUZ

Dud Doodoo wrote:NO. WHEN WE PRAY WE ARE TALKING TO GOD

Does god always have one-sided conversations? Seems a bit rude, so how do you get close to him that way?

Dud Doodoo wrote:AND WHEN WE DO HIS WILL AND GLORIFY HIM WE ARE BECOMING CLOSER TO HIM.

Isn't the underlined part a form of slavery? AWWWW LUV IN PUREST FORM!

Dud Doodoo wrote: WHEN WE LEARN ABOUT HIS WORD AND THE LIFE OF HIS SON JESUS WE GROW CLOSER TO HIM.

I believe you are getting closer to his 'son', not god himself.

Dud Doodoo wrote: AS IT'S BEEN SAID MANY TIMES BEFORE, CHRISTIANITY IS ALL ABOUT HAVING A RELATIONSHIP WITH THE ONE WHO MADE YOU.

And me and my mother get along fine, i'm a good christian

Gauz wrote:Isn't the underlined part a form of slavery? AWWWW LUV IN PUREST FORM!

You've never heard of Stockholm syndrome?

Gauz wrote: I believe you are getting closer to his 'son', not god himself.

Oh they're the same person... oh wait... *head asplodes

Well it looks like for once Toaster isn't the one purposely provoking the religious debate yet again...

successful troll is successful

Wasn't the (serious) point of church to formalise religion and spread it to the masses? Give you a place to go. I mean it wasn't even until the 16th century or something ridiculous they stopped doing it in Latin - so I doubt it was supposed to be about understanding.

I mean without church all you'd have is a rabble of different people preaching any old thing. Look at medieval total war 2!!

Also: can't forget to get money. Tithes were like church tax in the old days. 1/10 of all your stuff went to them.