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Post by CivBase on Thu Aug 20, 2009 11:19 am

The weapons in L4D could use a little more diversity.

The biggest problem with it is that it's a zombie game, meaning that cover is useless.

Together, those kill a lot of strategy.

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Post by Toaster on Thu Aug 20, 2009 12:48 pm

KrAzY wrote:
other shooters you can ctually use strategies in.... aka in half life when I set up an ambush site of trip mines and lured the marines inside.... or in Halo where i lead a battallion of armless flood combat forms into an area full of covenant and happily picked off the confused covenant.

L4D takes no starategy or skill.... there is a seemingly endless amount of ammo... health all over... you can't die (if you do, your team mate revives you in like a minute)...

L4D IS BORING.

I've played both of those games many times, and I've never taken the time to make use of the Trip-mines in Half-life, and I've only once taken the time to shoot the arms off of a combat flood.

Left 4 Dead is pretty simple when it comes to the campaign, but have you EVER played versus? It takes a ton of strategy on the part of the infected. You have to coordinate attacks perfectly to really harm a decent team.

The survivers have a simple job, but it's a difficult one still. You HAVE TO STICK TOGETHER. There's a reason why a survivor team without mics ALWAYS DOES TERRIBLY. You need to communicate, and you need to keep up the pace without leaving anybody behind. You have to look out for ammo and explosives without getting yourself held back. You have to conserve health and pills.

It doesn't take 'no strategy,' and it sure as hell isn't 'boring'.......... as long as you have an Ethernet cable, and a microphone.
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Post by XNate02 on Thu Aug 20, 2009 1:47 pm

Dud Doodoo wrote:You still shoot things until they die, but that isn't the extent of possible strategies. You can't really get creative in l4d like you can in other shooters (especially the ones mentioned) and that was the point.

Zombie games could be more than mindless carnage, but I haven't see one that goes beyond that yet.

The Resident 0-3 accomplished that Razz
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Post by Gauz on Thu Aug 20, 2009 2:20 pm

Yes, versus requires stratagey on the infected and survivors part. The special infected are very weak, and require coordinated attacks to do damage.

Survivors without mikes dont know what the fuck is going on.
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Post by Avenged on Thu Aug 20, 2009 2:24 pm

I will buy L4D2 but only when i gets a price drop

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Post by Angatar on Thu Aug 20, 2009 4:03 pm

Meh, didn't see the appeal of the first one, probably won't get this unless there is something interesting.

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Post by TNine on Thu Aug 20, 2009 6:23 pm

Nocbl2 wrote:Zombie games seem so boring and uninteresting. Why play them? Just hordes of bullet sponges stepping towards you at a super-slow pace.
Most good Zombie games have sprinting zombies, and L4D does have this. Along with the ever interesting special infected.
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Post by Gauz on Thu Aug 20, 2009 6:28 pm

Nocbl2 wrote:Zombie games seem so boring and uninteresting. Why play them? Just hordes of bullet sponges stepping towards you at a super-slow pace.
Quite the contrary. The game is not boring, although that is a matter of opinion. Uninteresting? Hardly, the game is quite interesting.

L4D 1 & 2 are games in which are highly based on co-op play. The zombies in the game are very fast, quite the contrary to normal zombies. The special infected give the game more interesting features and tons of more ways to play the game tactically in versus. The only uninteresting part about it is its lack of gametypes.
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Post by mcz on Fri Aug 21, 2009 12:33 pm

Dud Doodoo wrote:You still shoot things until they die, but that isn't the extent of possible strategies. You can't really get creative in l4d like you can in other shooters (especially the ones mentioned) and that was the point.

Zombie games could be more than mindless carnage, but I haven't see one that goes beyond that yet.
You can have TONS of strategies in Dead rising, you can complete the game with killing 100 zombies, or 10000. Its up to you, and both these work. You can also just stay at the helipad for 5 hours or so, or you can do the storyline, or hunt psychopats, or just murder every zombie there is, or get levels by being a photograf (i got 1/3 of my levels from the camera and i didnt use it very much, i bet you could get a ton more levels by just using it).
If there would be an open world mmo Dead rising, it would be brutal fun.
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Post by XNate02 on Fri Aug 21, 2009 7:18 pm

Nocbl2 wrote:Zombie games seem so boring and uninteresting. Why play them? Just hordes of bullet sponges stepping towards you at a super-slow pace.

Halo 3 has worse bullet sponges

and they are slower than the Zombies on L4D
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Post by Angatar on Fri Aug 21, 2009 9:25 pm

But Halo enemies are zombies...
And they are wearing armor....
And have advanced energy shielding...
And you might as well be using a musket against them...

Compared to L4D's zombies who are wearing no protection at all, and your weapons damage them.

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Post by Ascendant Justice on Fri Aug 21, 2009 9:46 pm

Meh I will buy it if I can get a decent internet connection to support it. The only reason I would buy it is for XBL since single player doesn't really look that great (in the first game that is).

The first L4D looks hella fun though.
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Post by JB on Fri Aug 21, 2009 10:26 pm

What people fail to see is the classic kind of game that L4D was supposed to portray. If you have ever played an arcade zombie game it kinda looks like L4D except in L4D you can control where ur guy goes, communicate with ur allies, cover each other and many more things.

Yes it had alot more potential then it has, but its also a good game to have if you do enjoy some moments of mindless carnage (easy mode) or strategising because ur ally got thrown up on in the middle of a 4 way hallway and there is a hunter bounding at you and a smoker at your back.

Judging a game you have never played is simply idiotic and trivial if you dont like the game that is perfectly fine, I have a fair share of games that I dont enjoy playing, but saying a game sucks because of the things that are obvious and not looking at its good attributes is quite simply close minded. Arguing that it could be better is understandable. By all means continue Very Happy
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Post by KrAzY on Fri Aug 21, 2009 10:52 pm

I still play L4D


I just personally think it is overrated and not much fun compared to other shooters...


when I want tatical zombie fights I play counter strike zombiemod...
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Post by Avenged on Sat Aug 22, 2009 1:52 am

KrAzY wrote:I still play L4D


I just personally think it is overrated and not much fun compared to other shooters...


when I want tatical zombie fights I play counter strike zombiemod...

If you don't like it then why do you play it.

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Post by Divine Virus on Sat Aug 22, 2009 2:44 am

I always wanted to get into L4D but never got around to it. So unless I get a sudden addiction to L4D, then it looks like L4D2 is a pass for me.
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Post by KristallNacht on Sat Aug 22, 2009 7:20 am

Dud Doodoo wrote:Arma, Operation Flashpoint, Arma II, Operation Flashpoint II, Ghost Recon...

um.....what?


what in ARMA is fundemantally different that L4D in terms of combat, other than enemies shooting back?
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Post by KristallNacht on Sat Aug 22, 2009 7:21 am

KrAzY wrote:
L4D IS BORING.

learn to not click "easy" pussy
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Post by KristallNacht on Sat Aug 22, 2009 7:25 am

Ascendant Justice wrote:since single player doesn't really look that great (in the first game that is).

no shit? what part of "co-op game" don't you understand?


besides L4D belongs on the PC.
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Post by Ukurse on Sat Aug 22, 2009 7:37 am

I might buy it, if it looks very interesting, and a lot of my friends buy it.
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Post by Cheese on Thu Sep 17, 2009 9:41 am

Has been refused classification in Australia.

Those bastards.

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Post by Vigil on Thu Sep 17, 2009 10:41 am

Ah they always do that.

They'll either come round, or they be even more boycotting the game.

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Post by Gauz on Thu Sep 17, 2009 3:13 pm

Its been proven even though L4D2 was boycotted, sales went up.
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Post by Vigil on Thu Sep 17, 2009 4:03 pm

Hmm......and you're basing that on what?

The game is not out yet.

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Post by Gauz on Thu Sep 17, 2009 5:27 pm

BLASPHAMEY


I think it was pre-orders or something, but Valve said that.
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