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Post by CivBase on Fri May 01, 2009 4:32 pm

Kasrkin Seath wrote:It literally has more potential to mutate into something deadlier than other strains of Influenza
As does Influenza itself and every other virus out there. What makes the Swine Flu any different?

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Post by Kasrkin Seath on Fri May 01, 2009 4:45 pm

More than other strains.
Other viruses are not as likely to spread or mutate as quickly
There is currently no vaccine to fight Swine Flu or a variation.

Thats why it is a problem
Otherwise its not an issue at all



It is not nearly as bad as the media makes it sound however.
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Post by Gauz on Fri May 01, 2009 7:04 pm

The swine flu is almost the same strain of influenza as the Human Flu...

They can mutate at the same rate, as they do every year.
Each year the flu is different through mutation, and flu vaccinations for this reason, usually do not help.

Vaccinations are based on (For the human flu) on what strain they think it will be that year. They are usaully wrong, and it ends up with a failure to protect from that years flu.

The swine flu is the same case, but if a vaccination is created, then it will be able to help because it is the same strain. Vaccinations have the actual flu in them, only a tiny bit though. They put it in your body so that your defense in your body can prepare for it. Since it is a small amount it barley affects you, you won't even feel the affects, but your body still will recognize it, and protect against it.
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Post by Kasrkin Seath on Fri May 01, 2009 7:40 pm

But, you fail tor ealize that H1N1 is a new strain. For other strains, mutations are still alike enough to the original to be dealt with by the Human Body effectively.

Without any natural defenses specifically against H1N1, a mutation could occur and then basically ROFLSTOMP the immune system.


They do not mutate at the same rate. Most mutations occur within a host. The more cases of infection, the higher chances of mutation. Combine that with the fact there are not natural antibodies targeting H1N1 and it allows it to spread more easily.
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Post by Zaki90 on Fri May 01, 2009 7:45 pm

Which will help cleanse the world of people who can't mutate there immune system fast enough... We will find out who has a good immune system!!!! WOOT!

I feel like Hitler.

I can just imagine Terrorists use Swine Flu instead of Anthrax.

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Post by Kasrkin Seath on Fri May 01, 2009 7:59 pm

Its not deadly, and its not likely to become deadly, but the chances are higher than with other strains of Flu.

They dont want another spanish flu.
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Post by Ukurse on Fri May 01, 2009 8:07 pm

Zaki90 wrote:Which will help cleanse the world of people who can't mutate there immune system fast enough... We will find out who has a good immune system!!!! WOOT!

I feel like Hitler.

I can just imagine Terrorists use Swine Flu instead of Anthrax.
That is funny because is like what Hitler did.
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Post by Gauz on Fri May 01, 2009 8:19 pm

Kill the Jews?

Napaloblalalalala... Q'napoloalala
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Post by Zaki90 on Fri May 01, 2009 8:51 pm

Ukurse wrote:
Zaki90 wrote:Which will help cleanse the world of people who can't mutate there immune system fast enough... We will find out who has a good immune system!!!! WOOT!

I feel like Hitler.

I can just imagine Terrorists use Swine Flu instead of Anthrax.
That is funny because is like what Hitler did.

No shit, Sherlock

x Gauz x wrote:Kill the Jews?

Napaloblalalalala... Q'napoloalala

Do Zionists count as Jews?

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Post by JumpingJet on Sat May 02, 2009 7:38 am

Whats the score?

Something to worry about:

Nothing to worry about:

?
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Post by Yam Head on Sat May 02, 2009 9:15 am

Kasrkin Seath wrote:Not necesarrily
It literally has more potential to mutate into something deadlier than other strains of Influenza, hence why teh Gov is reacting like it is.


Yes, the media is blowing it out of proportion though, and using it to make money
Like how Joe Bidden is going crazy about how one of the whitehouse security guards caught it...He swore off taking public transportation along with telling his family to do as such, hes gonna cause like a panic when he says, and does stuff like that
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Post by CivBase on Sat May 02, 2009 1:08 pm

It makes you wonder, though....

How long will it be before the flu beings to mutate faster than we can keep up with? Not just the swine flu, either....

Anyone ever read the whole Ender's Game series? I think it's the Xenocide book that talks about them being on a planet that has some sort of plant virus that kills their crops and mutates faster than they can accommodate for it, and just keep getting faster.... you think that might ever happen with another virus on Earth?

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Post by Zaki90 on Sat May 02, 2009 1:54 pm

CivBase wrote:It makes you wonder, though....

How long will it be before the flu beings to mutate faster than we can keep up with? Not just the swine flu, either....

Anyone ever read the whole Ender's Game series? I think it's the Xenocide book that talks about them being on a planet that has some sort of plant virus that kills their crops and mutates faster than they can accommodate for it, and just keep getting faster.... you think that might ever happen with another virus on Earth?

A flu does not want to mutate. It is completely accidental. They only mutate like humans mutate. But being reproduced so fast and in so many numbers the 1 in a million chance happens every day. These mutations are good and bad. Most are bad and that flu dies. They cannot mutate faster unless they reproduce faster. They cannot change how fast they reproduce as it is instinct.

I read Ender's Shadow, Ender's Game, and the other one after Ender's Game, Speaker for the Dead.
I read part of Xenocide as well.

'Descolada' was in Xenocide. The native pig creatures were adapted to it but the humans weren't. The virus adapted quickly.

That was I remember.

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Post by KrAzY on Sat May 02, 2009 1:56 pm

I just activated dr device



enjoy your last second of life
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Post by Rasq'uire'laskar on Sat May 02, 2009 2:00 pm

KrAzY wrote:I just activated dr device



enjoy your last second of life
"Molecular Disruptor" should be an attack for the Mothership in StarCraft II.
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Post by KristallNacht on Sat May 02, 2009 5:51 pm

Kasrkin Seath wrote:More than other strains.
Other viruses are not as likely to spread or mutate as quickly
There is currently no vaccine to fight Swine Flu or a variation.

WRONG. there are vaccines for fighting Swine Flu variations...they're called FLU SHOTS.

Swine Flu is just the newest Flu, so stfu.

Either way, I'm safe. My immune system adapts faster than viruses. srsly.
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Post by BBJynne on Sat May 02, 2009 7:02 pm

your immune system won't save you from velociraptors

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Post by KrAzY on Sat May 02, 2009 7:36 pm

mine will
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Post by Lord Pheonix on Sat May 02, 2009 7:50 pm

I have a system that is used in the protection from Velociraptors and other predators


Its called a Shotgun

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Post by Zaki90 on Sat May 02, 2009 7:55 pm

Lord Pheonix wrote:I have a system that is used in the protection from Velociraptors and other predators


Its called a Shotgun

Noobs...

I train Velociraptors to do as I command. To arms Velociraptors! We shall march into Poland!


This Hitler stuff is growing on me.

Anyway, the Swine Flu is the Anthrax of the future.

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Post by KrAzY on Sat May 02, 2009 8:11 pm

maybe if you drop it on some 3rd world country
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Post by BBJynne on Sat May 02, 2009 8:24 pm

Lord Pheonix wrote:I have a system that is used in the protection from Velociraptors and other predators


Its called a Shotgun

you won't survive

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Post by KristallNacht on Sat May 02, 2009 10:33 pm

Zaki90 wrote:
Anyway, the Swine Flu is the Anthrax of the future.

you are aware 'swine flu' originally appeared in the 80s right?

Lord Pheonix wrote:I have a system that is used in the protection from Velociraptors and other predators


Its called a Shotgun


for a second i thought you were gonna say Doors
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Post by Vigil on Sun May 03, 2009 2:57 am

Hmm......did you know that Human Bird Flu been around since 1998?

It's probably been around for a while, and only now it's spreading.

It is Influenza. It's a nasty virus, but it's very likely you'll recover.

As for it mutating, it's possible, but it's highly improbable, they are many strains of Influenza and they do mutate, but not at the rate of other Viruses.

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Post by RX on Sun May 03, 2009 3:09 am

I found an article saying that the swine-flu is just like a ordinary flu just that no one is immune to it, therefore the deaths.
I would link it, but I doubt any of you guys understand Norwegian.
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