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Post by Zaki90 on Wed Apr 29, 2009 8:13 pm

Here in Texas, people are getting scared of Swine Flu.

There are only 93 cases confirmed in America. The symptoms are no different than regular flu.

Discuss...

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Post by CivBase on Wed Apr 29, 2009 8:14 pm

A guy on my brother's baseball team has it. Not sure there's anything to debate on...

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Post by dragoon9105 on Wed Apr 29, 2009 8:20 pm

its a flu, whats there to debate about.

Its the same thing as human flu except this strain is being spread by pigs, and people who have been in mexico.

Just drink plenty of liquids, keep your immune system healthy and you should be fine.

Its not even lethal, My doctor says it behaves just like the normal flu, if anyone is goign to die from it, its people who ignore its symtoms, are elderly or are children.
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Post by Angatar on Wed Apr 29, 2009 8:22 pm

We are going to debate a flu?
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Post by Kasrkin Seath on Wed Apr 29, 2009 8:23 pm

Well...
THe swine Flu:

Is actually more dangerous than the regular Flu, but that is because of the lack of a Vaccine

Is Easily Transmitted(were just lucky that we caught it while it was intially spreading)

Is Quite capable of reaching pandemic proportions before a Vaccine is created.

It targets not only the very young and the very old, but the healthy young adults as well.

Is spread like the regular Flu, except it infects more than just Humans




Its only a problem if it is allowed to continue to spread. Although its spread is slow, if it ever gets out of controll in one area it could get pretty nasty.

And yes, it is lethal, like all strains of Flu. A bit moreso actually.
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Post by dragoon9105 on Wed Apr 29, 2009 8:27 pm

The regular flu infects healthy adults also.

Its only more lethal becuase most states dont have stockpiles of vaccine available
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Post by Kasrkin Seath on Wed Apr 29, 2009 8:29 pm

Yes it does, but the Swine Flu targts them more, as in it can bypass and overcome the Immune system toa ctuall infect them much more easily
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Post by dragoon9105 on Wed Apr 29, 2009 8:37 pm

Thats only becuase that strain of influenza hasnt been in contact with your average human adult. So naturally your body doesnt know how to defend against it as well as say, regular flu.

Other than that the swine flu is almost the same as regular flu except for a few extra symtoms.

Treatment is the same and unless you have a condition that makes the regular flu deadly (asthma for an example) its not lethal if you arent a child or elderly and provided you know how to deal with human flu.
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Post by Zaki90 on Wed Apr 29, 2009 8:55 pm

Kasrkin Seath wrote:Well...
THe swine Flu:

Is actually more dangerous than the regular Flu, but that is because of the lack of a Vaccine

Is Easily Transmitted(were just lucky that we caught it while it was intially spreading)

Is Quite capable of reaching pandemic proportions before a Vaccine is created.

It targets not only the very young and the very old, but the healthy young adults as well.

Is spread like the regular Flu, except it infects more than just Humans




Its only a problem if it is allowed to continue to spread. Although its spread is slow, if it ever gets out of controll in one area it could get pretty nasty.

And yes, it is lethal, like all strains of Flu. A bit moreso actually.

But the treatment is easy is just like regular flu.

All Flu is easily spread.

Pandemic propotions... psh posh... the effects are mild. It doesn't kill if you stay home, get lots of fluids, and do all the regular stuff.

So does regular Flu.

Other animals like pig and bird. Answer is obvious. Don't eat pork or birds.

And I am just really pissed about the amount of fuss about such a small and plain flu. Obama had to talk about it. The media is practically tripping over themselves about every case.

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Post by dragoon9105 on Wed Apr 29, 2009 9:01 pm

The Media overplays everything, you need to half every number they say and play down any "Crisis" they have until you find a better source of information, I asked my doctor for example.

Also Swine flu doesnt spread through food it is perfectly safe to eat pork as long as its cooked hot enough to kill anything still alive in it.

And there is no Pandemic, It cant be a Pandemic unless it changes continent or kills millions of people, the swine flue is predicted to have a slightly higher kill count then that of the regular flu and that's only because it has the element of surprise.
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Post by CivBase on Wed Apr 29, 2009 9:02 pm

Don't eat pork? Are you trying to kill me!?!?!?!

You don't tell an Iowan not to eat pork! Bad things happen to people that tell Iowans not to eat pork.

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Post by KristallNacht on Wed Apr 29, 2009 9:29 pm

New diseases are the planets way of getting back at the human race for being the parasitic lifeform it is.
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Post by Vigil on Thu Apr 30, 2009 2:10 am

It's been blown out of proportion.

Tammyflu is been shown to be able to treat the it, and lower it's symptoms, and we have millions of pounds of the drug stockpiled in London alone.

Inflenza can be nasty but the main people at risk are children and the elderly.

I really doubt it will be the next black death.

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Post by Cheese on Thu Apr 30, 2009 4:31 am

I heard they can't find the bodies of the ones who died in mexico. Other people from the area have gone missing, too.

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Post by Toaster on Thu Apr 30, 2009 4:43 am

Civ wrote:You don't tell an Iowan not to eat pork! Bad things happen to people that tell Iowans not to eat pork.

Are there any Jews in Iowa?

Cheese wrote:I heard they can't find the bodies of the ones who died in mexico. Other people from the area have gone missing, too.

Maybe they're waking up from some sort of virtual-reality that we all unknowingly reside in?
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Post by PiEdude on Thu Apr 30, 2009 6:17 am

WE HAVE TO FIND THE MONKEY!!!
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Post by Cheese on Thu Apr 30, 2009 6:30 am

Just saw this on BBC news. Apparently a delirious patient bit his nurse on the hand when she was trying to put in an IV. The patient then went on to bite an orderly who were trying to stop him getting out of bed.

Now the bitten people have it too, and the original guy has been put in hospital quarantine after being deemed a threat to the health of others around him. Didn't say names or locations.

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Post by CivBase on Thu Apr 30, 2009 8:08 am

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Post by PiEdude on Thu Apr 30, 2009 12:15 pm

Cheese wrote:Just saw this on BBC news. Apparently a delirious patient bit his nurse on the hand when she was trying to put in an IV. The patient then went on to bite an orderly who were trying to stop him getting out of bed.

Now the bitten people have it too, and the original guy has been put in hospital quarantine after being deemed a threat to the health of others around him. Didn't say names or locations.

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I... haven't heard this at all.

I've even looked on the BBC website, and nothing.
I call BS.
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Post by Cheese on Thu Apr 30, 2009 12:32 pm

PiEman wrote:
Cheese wrote:Just saw this on BBC news. Apparently a delirious patient bit his nurse on the hand when she was trying to put in an IV. The patient then went on to bite an orderly who were trying to stop him getting out of bed.

Now the bitten people have it too, and the original guy has been put in hospital quarantine after being deemed a threat to the health of others around him. Didn't say names or locations.

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I... haven't heard this at all.

I've even looked on the BBC website, and nothing.
I call BS.

It was on tv. I only use the bbc website for iplayer.

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Post by dragoon9105 on Thu Apr 30, 2009 2:27 pm

If they were smart then they would have burned the patient, burned anyone he infected and forget about the whole thing.

but yes i call major BS. and besides swine flu is not transmitted through biting people. the virus was probably on the people who were bittens arms and somehow they managed to get it to a bleeding cut, eyes, nose or mouth.


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Post by Cheese on Thu Apr 30, 2009 2:30 pm

dragoon9105 wrote:If they were smart then they would have burned the patient, burned anyone he infected and forget about the whole thing.

but yes i call major BS. and besides swine flu is not transmitted through biting people. the virus was probably on the people who were bittens arms and somehow they managed to get it to a bleeding cut, eyes, nose or mouth.

Lol, you do realise it didn't say it was transferred through biting people. It was probably like you said, or maybe just open wound + hospital = bad.

Although I'm guessing they probably cleaned up the wounds. Hell... it didn't even say there were any open wounds. Maybe they just caught it the good old fashioned way.


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Post by dragoon9105 on Thu Apr 30, 2009 2:31 pm

exactly, the way you worded it sounded like the person was infected with the T-virus Whatever


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Post by Cheese on Thu Apr 30, 2009 2:32 pm

Yeah I totally did that on purpose Razz

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Post by Vigil on Thu Apr 30, 2009 2:33 pm

What I found funny was they said some sources were saying like 19000 deaths in London alone.

Where did they get that? Barry the pessimistic liar?

It's just fucking Flu. It will make you ill and feel like shit, but I seriously doubt it will kill you.

How many have actually died from it? About 3 WORLDWIDE.

It's the fucking media trying to cause a panic.

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