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Post by Gold Spartan on Fri Apr 17, 2009 9:22 pm

This maybe the time when the Wii's era of dominance comes to an end! But it probably wont happen. the story is right here.
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Post by Toaster on Fri Apr 17, 2009 9:27 pm

Nintendo has exhibited absolute disregard for third party developments ever Sony stole all of its third party developers in the PS1 Era. Nothing has changed.
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Post by Angatar on Fri Apr 17, 2009 11:35 pm

That article is all about no third part developers?

lol that's not new...
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Post by KrAzY on Fri Apr 17, 2009 11:45 pm

era of dominance?


Xbox has been at the top of the market for like 3 years
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Post by Ukurse on Sat Apr 18, 2009 3:02 am

I was about to say:
When was it looking good for them? (If you don't include Pre-Launch Hype)

One of the only people who buy the WII are the same people who Bought the NES/SNES and though it was so great that the decided never to buy any other game console other than Nintendo ones, and have after all these years done so, unknowing of what they are missing out on. They Think that Mario Galaxy is so pro, as all they have to compare is WII Fit, and Mario Kart. I played Mario Galaxy and I though I was Marios last, half decent attempt at success, And for some Idiotic reason the moronic noobs reviewer gave it good scores. If it had taken out the name Mario it would have been given a 6/10 opposed to a 9/10, No one would have bought it, and know one would know of it. If those people went and played a Good game like Starcraft, TF2, Halo 3 ETC they would realise all of the WII games are nothing more than mediocre. Zelda, Super Smash Brothers, Mario party... sure they are fun the first few times but How many times can you buy the same game? Once, twice, even thrice?.. 8 times? They need more third party support.

Or they are the n00bs who are casual gamers who don't care about online multiplayer, or multiplayer all together. A game console has to atleast have a bearable online system they WII majorly fails at that.

It might sound like I hate the WII, I just think all Nintendo Fans overrate it's greatness, it doesn't even compare to the PC, Xbox, PS3.
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Post by Cheese on Sat Apr 18, 2009 8:08 am

Ukurse wrote:

One of the only people who buy the WII are the same people who Bought the NES/SNES and though it was so great that the decided never to buy any other game console other than Nintendo ones,

I have a Wii (I know you said 'one of' btw). I have also owned pretty much every console (starting with sega megadrive and excluding handhelds) since then, apart from the PS3. I'd say N64 is when they were last decent enough to stand alone. I'd also say that PS1 was weaker than Dreamcast; but that's both opinion and irrelevant.

But anyway, I'll agree with that the Wii is a total waste of a console - as with its predececor, the gamecube. All of the real games are at least 15 years and have been repackaged so many times that we can honestly assume they're not trying. Incidentally, I also think that Zelda and Mario hit its prime in 1994 and should have died of old age in the millennium!!

So it sounds like I hate my Wii too, right? Well I kind of do... the fact you need to use the Wiimote to select the game before you play has left me Wii-less for weeks on end when I forget the mote (I only use the gamecube pads). But I still haven't sold it because of Smash Bros Brawl. Absolutely easily got in my top three gaming titles along with Total War and STALKER. Total War at the bottom of this list.

We have nights devoted to playing it drunk, and days to playing it sober. The element of ever increasing skill, opponent guessing, combined with random barrels on your face leaves for a totally unique experience. I'm guessing that by calling it simple you aren't that great at it...



And yet... I still think Smash Bros Mellee is the best, and the only reason I use the Wii and Brawl is because my tool of a brother gave my gamecube and games to his mate.

In summary, Wii = terrible on all counts. Smash Bros = God in a box (Thor specifically, and yes I am a huge fanboy). My brother = tool for giving stuff away.

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Post by PiEdude on Sat Apr 18, 2009 8:26 am

Starting to look bad?

So the "Wii would rike to play" commercials didn't look bad to you?
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Post by Toaster on Sat Apr 18, 2009 11:21 am

Cheese wrote: I'd also say that PS1 was weaker than Dreamcast;

Technologically? yes.... but it also came out exactly 4 years AFTER the Playstation.

The thing that made to Playstation an overall better system was third party support. Sony was the first console maker to really emphasize on the CD ROM format (instead of expensive, low capacity cartridges) and also REALLY pushed 3D gaming.

Sony went in and got exclusive deals with tons of developers, taking away a huge piece of the market share from Nintendo, and drowning Sega. EA wouldn't even develop for the Dreamcast.
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Post by Gauz on Sat Apr 18, 2009 11:45 am

Strange..

The Wii is how old? (seriously, I forget) It still hasn't dropped its price SINCE THE DAY IT WAS FIRST RELEASED!

Nintendo is doing fine, they appea; to a different audience, they appeal to everyone. Sony is who is in trouble, imo.
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Post by Jamiesway on Sat Apr 18, 2009 11:53 am

wii's are still awesome
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Post by Cheese on Sat Apr 18, 2009 12:05 pm

x Gauz x wrote:Strange..

The Wii is how old? (seriously, I forget) It still hasn't dropped its price SINCE THE DAY IT WAS FIRST RELEASED!

Nintendo is doing fine, they appea; to a different audience, they appeal to everyone. Sony is who is in trouble, imo.

In the UK it actually raised the price to compensate for the weakening pound! God damn I hate Nintendo, I really do.

And by dreamcast>ps1 I actually meant in terms of games. Sonic Adventure, Toy Commander, Power Stone. They were all awesome...

But then again... PS1 had FF7-FF9... Tough choice.

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Post by PiEdude on Sat Apr 18, 2009 12:37 pm

I've thunk and said it before, and I'll think and say it again:
To hell with the Japs.
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Post by Gauz on Sat Apr 18, 2009 12:40 pm

Viva La Japan!
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Post by XNate02 on Sat Apr 18, 2009 12:41 pm

x Gauz x wrote:Viva La Japan!

O.O

do you have any idea what PiE will do to you for saying that?!?!
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Post by PiEdude on Sat Apr 18, 2009 12:41 pm

I will personally cut your dick off Gauz!
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Post by Gauz on Sat Apr 18, 2009 12:44 pm

I don't get what the big deal is Razz
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Post by KristallNacht on Sat Apr 18, 2009 4:33 pm

the wii isn't selling since everyone and their grandparents owns a wii pretty much.

either way, the moment The Conduit comes out, every hardcore FPSer will want a Wii.
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Post by PiEdude on Sat Apr 18, 2009 4:38 pm

WTF is the conduit?
(I'm not capitalizing it because it isn't important enough to merit capitalization)
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Post by Toaster on Sat Apr 18, 2009 4:45 pm

KristallNacht wrote:the wii isn't selling since everyone and their grandparents owns a wii pretty much.

either way, the moment The Conduit comes out, every hardcore FPSer will want a Wii.

NT, the only reason that The Conduit seems important is the fact that it's on a console surrounded by shitty casual titles. Were The Conduit slated to come out on another system, like PC, 360, or PS3, it would be considered an average, rent-worthy shooter.

The shooter audience is not on the Wii. The Conduit appeals only to hardcore gamers who happen to own a Wii. The game is not going to move system sales.
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Post by Cheese on Sat Apr 18, 2009 5:29 pm

PiEman wrote:WTF is the conduit?
(I'm not capitalizing it because it isn't important enough to merit capitalization)

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Post by Angatar on Sat Apr 18, 2009 6:52 pm

The Conduit is a FPS, but since I could care less about my brothers Wii, I won't care. Also, FPS and Wii do not go together.
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Post by PiEdude on Sat Apr 18, 2009 7:16 pm

I refuse to let Kornfrog get a Wii.
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Post by KristallNacht on Sun Apr 19, 2009 12:13 am

Angatar wrote:The Conduit is a FPS, but since I could care less about my brothers Wii, I won't care. Also, FPS and Wii do not go together.

oh just like how 8 years ago FPS and consoles didn't go together?
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Post by Angatar on Sun Apr 19, 2009 12:18 am

Yup.
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Post by Toaster on Sun Apr 19, 2009 12:40 am

KristallNacht wrote:
Angatar wrote:The Conduit is a FPS, but since I could care less about my brothers Wii, I won't care. Also, FPS and Wii do not go together.

oh just like how 8 years ago FPS and consoles didn't go together?

It's not the same situation NT. The audience for sci-fi first person shooters simply does not exist on the Wii. Were this game on another console, it would probably sell a decent amount, but it being on the Wii is not going to sell units.

It's not that shooters don't work on Wii, it's just that any form of hard-core gaming experience simply does not fare well in Wii market.

Madworld was supposed to be a top-selling hardcore Wii game that would push the platform forward. It sold 160,000 units...

Games like this, games for people like us, simply do not do well on the Wii. As much as you'd like to believe that Nintendo is honestly behind the efforts of third party developers, they're only fooling people like you into thinking that they still care about core gamers.

I'm sorry. The golden days of Nintendo are over. They've discovered the casual audience, and they're quite content.
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