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Post by PiEdude on Fri Apr 17, 2009 6:02 pm

ReconToaster wrote:God, you people are so sensitive to political correctness. There's also a young life youth group club at my school for Christians. Am I whining?

What do you mean "you people"?
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Post by CivBase on Fri Apr 17, 2009 6:09 pm

Wow... way to overgeneralize me, guys.

I do not care if someone is gay. While I disagree with their life style, it's no different than if I was talking to an Atheist. I don't care unless they try to force it on me.

The reason I was pissed was because the gay portion of this Day of Silence was heavily accented. Then 1/5 of the school were active in it. That put me over the edge. Like I said, I don't care until they shove it in my face.

I realize that a club for almost anything can be created, and I think this is wrong. I don't think clubs based off of religion, politics, and other highly controversial issues should be allowed to affiliate themselves with the school if the school dosn't want it, and I especially don't think the school should be responsible for supporting them. I don't care if it's a bible club, a gay club, or a "no Mexicans" club; it doesn't belong in the schools.

Also, I don't think they just have sex in that club, it was a joke. But, seriously, what is the club for? What could you possibly do in a club like this?

"Don't be afraid to be gay!"
"If I was I wouldn't be here."
"Oh.... hmm.... what now?"


It just doesn't make sense. It looks more like they're trying to start a fight. This has created far more discrimination in one day than there has been for the past two years.

The Day of Silence being a national thing makes it a bit better... but the fact that being gay is the only thing that was ever mentioned in it makes me sick. Maybe it's different in other schools, but that's how it is here.

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Post by Angatar on Fri Apr 17, 2009 8:03 pm

People have a right to be happy, if another member of the same sex make each other happy, then let them be happy.

Gay people should not be protected nor attacked. They are human, they should be treated as human.

Also for the 'group mentality' thing, I totally agree. My friend is Colombian and was speaking in spanish to another of his friends in spanish (which I don't speak so I'm not exactly sure what they were talking about, I believe it was about the color of someones clothes) and one of the words was 'negro' and some dude sitting near them got pissed. Way too much. If you want rascism to stop, then do not acknowledge the terms.
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Post by Toaster on Fri Apr 17, 2009 8:18 pm

For the record Civ, wasn't talking about you. Very Happy
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Post by Angatar on Fri Apr 17, 2009 8:20 pm

I'm actually not gay, and I don't want to be an actor, so I don't know why I do this...
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Post by Ascendant Justice on Fri Apr 17, 2009 11:21 pm

I dont have a problem with gays....its just the entire freaking issue has been rammed into people's faces more than it needs to lately. Hate crime this, hate crime that. Even so I do see Civbase's point somewhat, if a gay club/thing/whatever appeared in my school, I would be rather annoyed as well. Not to mention that the club would NOT last more than a week in our school.
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Post by Chuckles on Fri Apr 17, 2009 11:30 pm

I don't see the need for a gay club in school...
All it would do is create prejudice and "gangs"...
Making society even worse.
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Post by Cheese on Sat Apr 18, 2009 8:11 am

Angatar wrote:I'm actually not gay, and I don't want to be an actor, so I don't know why I do this...

I always do that, and I don't know why either...

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Post by Gauz on Sat Apr 18, 2009 10:53 am

I am just going to agree with whatever RT and LP say..
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Post by CivBase on Sat Apr 18, 2009 6:10 pm

Angatar wrote:People have a right to be happy, if another member of the same sex make each other happy, then let them be happy.
I'd beg to differ. People don't have a right to be happy, they have a freedom to be happy.

Chuckles wrote:I don't see the need for a gay club in school...
All it would do is create prejudice and "gangs"...
Making society even worse.
Exactly.

x Gauz x wrote:I am just going to agree with whatever RT and LP say..
Nice to know that people care about what I say....

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Post by Cheese on Sat Apr 18, 2009 6:18 pm

CivBase wrote:
Angatar wrote:People have a right to be happy, if another member of the same sex make each other happy, then let them be happy.
I'd beg to differ. People don't have a right to be happy, they have a freedom to be happy.

*tear*

It's beautiful.

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Post by CivBase on Sat Apr 18, 2009 6:19 pm

As in, the government is not responsible for guaranteeing their happiness.

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Post by Cheese on Sat Apr 18, 2009 6:24 pm

CivBase wrote:As in, the government is not responsible for guaranteeing their happiness.

Oh... I thought you were saying something poetic about how every man has to find their own happiness... but w/e then.

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Post by CivBase on Sat Apr 18, 2009 6:27 pm

That too.

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Post by Angatar on Sat Apr 18, 2009 6:47 pm

CivBase wrote:As in, the government is not responsible for guaranteeing their happiness.
Mixed those terms up...
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Post by Kasrkin Seath on Sat Apr 18, 2009 9:11 pm

The Government is responsible for allowing them the capability to find happiness on their own.
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Post by BBJynne on Sat Apr 18, 2009 11:47 pm

The government is responsible for keeping the roads maintained.

If the roads are not maintained, most people will be unhappy.

Thus, the government is responsible for keeping people happy.

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Post by KristallNacht on Sun Apr 19, 2009 12:16 am

Technically the government doesn't have a responsibility for giving them a chance at happiness.

the phrase "Every man is endowed by their creator with certain unalienable rights. Among these are the rights to life, liberty and the pursuit of happiness" doesn't ACTUALLY appear in any legal document.

They are contained in the Declaration of Independence which has no actual hold of effect on the actual government. When the Constitution was written, the part that says "the pursuit of happiness" was removed.
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Post by Death no More on Sun Apr 19, 2009 8:35 am

Lord Pheonix wrote:


and you are afraid to think about what they do in the club?

There is a debate club with boys AND girls in it, does that mean all they are doing is fucking?


*Joins debate club*...lol You might be pissed for what im about to say but im sayin it anyways. Being gay is a problem because it is counter productive to increasing our numbers even though their quite high. To me its almost comparable to murder, gay people destroy the chance of them having a child, which in itself is killing the child. Then their is STD's even though straight people contract them too, Gays are more likely to contract the more dangerous ones(Aids for example) ones that are hard to treat and some we may not have a cure for. Eventually people die from them and again this is comparable to murder. Also if you dare call me intolerant your wrong, intolerance is hating someone for something they cant change(Race), Gay people can become straight so its not intolerance.
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Post by Cheese on Sun Apr 19, 2009 8:57 am

Death no more wrote:Gay people can become straight so its not intolerance.

Do you think you could become gay? It's the same case. If you answer yes, then... well damn man. You have an individual talent, or are bisexual.

Second - Our population is already too high. We need to have a lower population, end of, or we need to make some serious scientific progress. Though this is irrelevant really. Gay folk are more akin to people who don't have kids just because that's what they end up doing.

In fact, Gay folk are more likely to adopt if they want a kid, which is great! Because as Dickens has shown us... Orphanages suck. Even if they don't adopt, they can now have kids through in vitro-fertilization. So that pretty much throws all that out the window.

As for STDs... really? Reeeeeeeally? You even said everybody can get those. Babies are more suseptable to disease - so if one dies of the common cold (unlikely, but you get the point) after hanging out on a bus, the baby has effectively murdered itself, right?

But you're saying they basically choose to put themselves at higher risk, right? It's still not that big if they use condoms. Choose now - sex, or very small chance of STD. It's a risk you'll take every time you have sex anyway. If you die of an STD because a condom bursts or summat, congrats, you've apparently murdered yourself.

You might say, 'well they're at higher risk,' which I'll give you. Well police officers are at higher risk of being shot, firemen burned, and hell, doctors are even more likely to catch an infection of some sort. They put themselves at risk because they are doing what the think is right. Yes... doing was a double-entendre.

There's no choice, and even if there was, most gay folk I know have considered being straight as much as you have being gay. The only difference is that they don't loathe your existence.

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Post by R!zZle BiZzl£ on Sun Apr 19, 2009 9:10 am

i don't agree with being gay but i don't mind gay people, but i think instead of shouting "we are gay and proud of it.." they should keep it to themselves, i mean i don't shout " I'm straight" and make clubs about being straight.
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Post by thane321 on Sun Apr 19, 2009 9:34 am

Death no more wrote:
Lord Pheonix wrote:


and you are afraid to think about what they do in the club?

There is a debate club with boys AND girls in it, does that mean all they are doing is fucking?


Then their is STD's even though straight people contract them too, Gays are more likely to contract the more dangerous ones(Aids for example) ones that are hard to treat and some we may not have a cure for. Eventually people die from them and again this is comparable to murder.
http://www.ukcoalition.org/AIDS-Virus/9859.htm wrote:Gay men are not more likely to contract HIV than anyone else, at the moment the largest growing population of new HIV infections is heterosexual females ages 18-25. In fact homosexual men are now less likely to contract HIV.
Also most homosexual men do not participate in anal sex as much as people seem to think, it is usually oral/manual stimulation.

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Post by Cheese on Sun Apr 19, 2009 9:35 am

Huzzah!

@last bit Thane, you would know Razz

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Post by thane321 on Sun Apr 19, 2009 9:44 am

Cheese wrote:Huzzah!

@last bit Thane, you would know Razz
ofc

i mean...

no


:oops:
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Post by Toaster on Sun Apr 19, 2009 11:36 am

Death wrote:Being gay is a problem because it is counter productive to increasing our numbers even though their quite high. To me its almost comparable to murder, gay people destroy the chance of them having a child, which in itself is killing the child.

So, would you consider two people in a straight marriage that decide not to have a child "murderers?"

What if someone has two kids, and then stops? They were perfectly capable of constantly breeding until she ran out of eggs or died. Are they murderers?

Please man, we're already having enough trouble with the whole "Abortion VS fetal rights" debate. Let's not get into preemptive abortion.
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