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Glen Beck owned.... 12 months too late
http://www.gamepolitics.com/2009/04/09/keith-olbermann-takes-glenn-beck-over-grand-theft-auto-rant-pittsburgh-police-slayings
It's about time someone called him out on the statements he made last april...
It's about time someone called him out on the statements he made last april...
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Re: Glen Beck owned.... 12 months too late
Lol!
I love Kieth Olbermann, both when he was an announcer for ESPN,(occasionally NBC now) but mostly I love Countdown.
I love Kieth Olbermann, both when he was an announcer for ESPN,(occasionally NBC now) but mostly I love Countdown.
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Re: Glen Beck owned.... 12 months too late
PiEman wrote:Lol!
I love Kieth Olbermann, both when he was an announcer for ESPN,(occasionally NBC now) but mostly I love Countdown.
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Re: Glen Beck owned.... 12 months too late
Nobody's perfect. I like his ideas on most things, but everyone has their quirks.
Re: Glen Beck owned.... 12 months too late
Who?
Beck or Olbermann?
Beck or Olbermann?
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Re: Glen Beck owned.... 12 months too late
Glen Beck
I really don't like GTA either, though. The only thing good about it is the cheats and driving system... but that alone makes for a suckish game.
The immorality portrayed in the game just ruins everything remotely good about it, and only makes the game look like a typical rebellious teen game that has no real value other than teaching kids that drugs and sex are awesome. The storyline sucks, and the immorality doesn't help. It can in some games, but not in GTA.
In all, I classify GTA as a popular fail... but not one that's so bad that it should require anything over an M rating or any extra restriction. This is where I fix my line, and this is where I say Glen goes too far... I don't think it is greatly responsible for any violence. With this said, I do think, however, it cirtainly doesn't help.
Video game violence can relieve stress, and I completely acknowledge this, but it's another thing for it to be complete and total immorality and disrespect for the law. Both sides, despite what some on here may say, have their good points. Glen wasn't right to lay so much blame on the game, but I know a game like GTA can only make things worse, while a game like COD, Halo, or GOW can actually help.
Case and point: GTA sucks, Glen went too far (but still has a bit of a point), and Tocos rule.
I really don't like GTA either, though. The only thing good about it is the cheats and driving system... but that alone makes for a suckish game.
The immorality portrayed in the game just ruins everything remotely good about it, and only makes the game look like a typical rebellious teen game that has no real value other than teaching kids that drugs and sex are awesome. The storyline sucks, and the immorality doesn't help. It can in some games, but not in GTA.
In all, I classify GTA as a popular fail... but not one that's so bad that it should require anything over an M rating or any extra restriction. This is where I fix my line, and this is where I say Glen goes too far... I don't think it is greatly responsible for any violence. With this said, I do think, however, it cirtainly doesn't help.
Video game violence can relieve stress, and I completely acknowledge this, but it's another thing for it to be complete and total immorality and disrespect for the law. Both sides, despite what some on here may say, have their good points. Glen wasn't right to lay so much blame on the game, but I know a game like GTA can only make things worse, while a game like COD, Halo, or GOW can actually help.
Case and point: GTA sucks, Glen went too far (but still has a bit of a point), and Tocos rule.
Re: Glen Beck owned.... 12 months too late
PiEman wrote:Who?
Beck or Olbermann?
Oh he's bound to be talking about Beck.
When it comes to conservative 'News' show hosts, I don't agree much of anything they say. Still, I don't mind Bill O'Reilly. I think he's a pretty intelligent guy, and he's relatively rational as well. I don't mind listening to him talk.
Glen Beck, on the other hand, is a terrible person. Seriously. Watch: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NOkRI5pGT9U&feature=related
Complete dick.
Civ wrote:Case and point: GTA sucks, Glen went too far (but still has a bit of a point), and Tocos rule.
GET THE FUCK OUT CIV! Christ! stop commenting on GTA when you haven't even played the latest title. My god, last I checked we weren't talking about san andreas. I agree that past GTA installations were pretty mediocre but PLEASE I BEG YOU stop shitting all over GTA IV when you haven't played more than 10 minutes of it. AAAAAARRRGGGGGHHHH *head asplodes
GTA IV has a great story line, and (seriously) film quality dialog and cut scenes. It's not just senseless violence. It's a mafia crime story, just like any other mafia film you've seen.
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You can stand O'Riley, but can't stand Beck?
O'Riley is a paranoid, insane ultra right-wing nutcase!
I remember once seeing the opening preview of his show, and I had to change it because the guy was such an idiot.
And don't even get me started on the rape and the stalking...
(not by him, but his harrassing rape victims, and having one of his crews stalk some woman that they wanted to interview)
O'Riley is a paranoid, insane ultra right-wing nutcase!
I remember once seeing the opening preview of his show, and I had to change it because the guy was such an idiot.
And don't even get me started on the rape and the stalking...
(not by him, but his harrassing rape victims, and having one of his crews stalk some woman that they wanted to interview)
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Re: Glen Beck owned.... 12 months too late
Well, he's a hell of a lot better than Beck. Both of them have (in my opinion) extreme and warped views, but Glen is just an ass hole.
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You've got to admit the thing about pirates saving the whales was funny.
RT is right about Beck's general being though lol
RT is right about Beck's general being though lol
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I don't disagree about Beck, but I just think O'Riley doesn't really have it altogether either.
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Re: Glen Beck owned.... 12 months too late
Maybe. Like I said, everyone has their quirks. He has a stubborn view on video games and it's messed up. But that doesn't mean everything that comes out of his mouth is stupid. Like I said, I agree with many of his views, and he has some major points with this.ReconToaster wrote:PiEman wrote:Who?
Beck or Olbermann?
Oh he's bound to be talking about Beck.
When it comes to conservative 'News' show hosts, I don't agree much of anything they say. Still, I don't mind Bill O'Reilly. I think he's a pretty intelligent guy, and he's relatively rational as well. I don't mind listening to him talk.
Glen Beck, on the other hand, is a terrible person. Seriously. Watch: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NOkRI5pGT9U&feature=related
Complete dick.
He acted like a jerk, but it really doesn't bug me. I disagree with him on many points and could probably beat him in a logical debate on that subject, but there are a lot of people that have views like that on subjects. That doesn't mean they're all idiots at everything.
Doesn't change the nature of the game, which is still messed up. Recon, I've played many hours of GTA, and all of it has been trash, whether it's storyline or killing sprees. Sure, it's fun to cheat, but after a while it's just dumb.ReconToaster wrote:GET THE FUCK OUT CIV! Christ! stop commenting on GTA when you haven't even played the latest title. My god, last I checked we weren't talking about san andreas. I agree that past GTA installations were pretty mediocre but PLEASE I BEG YOU stop shitting all over GTA IV when you haven't played more than 10 minutes of it. AAAAAARRRGGGGGHHHH *head asplodes
GTA IV has a great story line, and (seriously) film quality dialog and cut scenes. It's not just senseless violence. It's a mafia crime story, just like any other mafia film you've seen.
I believe you when GTA 5 has a better storyline, but the best story ever wouldn't be able to haul that game out of the grave it has dug in my mind. The basis of the game, which is what I'm talking about (NOT THE STORY!) is immoral and just plain sucks. You can yack on all you want about how GTA 5 is better, but there's an equal chance of me convincing you to become a Christian; it doesn't happen, because the core of the religion is just messed up in your mind. Same goes for me with GTA.
Maybe some people find some enjoyment in the game, and I'm not criticizing them at all, but I never could, and the game is completely immoral, unlike many other violent games.
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Maybe if you knew enough about the game to know that THERE IS NOT GTA 5, you would have a different opinion.
What parts of the game are you talking about? If you mean the fact that you CAN kill innocent civilians, there is never a mission in the game that tells you to do that. If you do, that's your decision. Don't criticize the game for giving you choice.
If you just mean the general theme of the game, being the world of drugs and crime... what's wrong with that? There are plenty of movies on the subject (departed, Goodfellas, Godfather) that many would consider art.
Just because the game involves controversial topics, does not make it trash.
What about the game is immoral then? honestly, the only people you are instructed to kill are drug lords and murderers.
Stop whining that it's immoral. It's really starting to get old. Do you refuse to watch the Godfather because it shows immoral activities?
What parts of the game are you talking about? If you mean the fact that you CAN kill innocent civilians, there is never a mission in the game that tells you to do that. If you do, that's your decision. Don't criticize the game for giving you choice.
If you just mean the general theme of the game, being the world of drugs and crime... what's wrong with that? There are plenty of movies on the subject (departed, Goodfellas, Godfather) that many would consider art.
Just because the game involves controversial topics, does not make it trash.
What about the game is immoral then? honestly, the only people you are instructed to kill are drug lords and murderers.
Stop whining that it's immoral. It's really starting to get old. Do you refuse to watch the Godfather because it shows immoral activities?
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Re: Glen Beck owned.... 12 months too late
I just thought GTA IV lacked a few things(like good vehicle controls, some multiplayer objects etc).
GTA wasn't terrible, it just didn't hold my interests. The only fun I had was killing inocent people in free mode, as well as driving a helicopter(even though it was impossible to fly and shoot at the same time).
GTA wasn't terrible, it just didn't hold my interests. The only fun I had was killing inocent people in free mode, as well as driving a helicopter(even though it was impossible to fly and shoot at the same time).
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Re: Glen Beck owned.... 12 months too late
I dont like the premise of GTA in general... Otherwise I dont really have anything against it.
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