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Post by Kasrkin Seath on Fri Mar 27, 2009 7:46 pm

Obama team is pushing for an Assault Weapons Ban.
Personally, I am both against this and believe it will never pass.
NRA is too big for one, plus it would piss off ALOT of people, including myself.

Your thoughts?
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Post by RX on Fri Mar 27, 2009 8:12 pm

Banning Assault Weapons is a huge spot on the Do Not List.
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Post by KrAzY on Fri Mar 27, 2009 8:26 pm

why the fuck do citizens need assault weapons?


rifles and shotguns for hunting are one thing... but there is absolutely no need to allow access to machine guns and such...


let the police keep em... but unless its a demilitarized version of that gun (aka a gun just for show... such as a veterans weapon) then the public should have absolutely no access to them


pistols, shotguns, and hunting rifles are all that the normal person should be allowed to attain
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Post by TNine on Fri Mar 27, 2009 8:36 pm

KrAzY wrote:why the fuck do citizens need assault weapons?


rifles and shotguns for hunting are one thing... but there is absolutely no need to allow access to machine guns and such...


let the police keep em... but unless its a demilitarized version of that gun (aka a gun just for show... such as a veterans weapon) then the public should have absolutely no access to them


pistols, shotguns, and hunting rifles are all that the normal person should be allowed to attain
I want a tank though!
But yeah, i agree. The second amendment is outdated.
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Post by Kasrkin Seath on Fri Mar 27, 2009 8:52 pm

Assault rifles are basically perfect for hunting.
7.62 mm rounds murder them, and seing how they are semi-auto with a 30 round clip.

btw, automatic weapons are banned, the only assault rifles available to the public atm are semi-auto assault rifles.

Now, please explain to me WHY they should be banned?
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Post by KristallNacht on Fri Mar 27, 2009 8:58 pm

the main reason anyone should cite for why is the fact they're far easier to aim and operate than pistols/handguns

personally i want them not banned just with crazy restrictions, cause i want to be able to have a collection of assault weapons of all kinds on my wall lol

gonna start with a G36 cause i love it, than m-16 and then TAR and go from there
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Post by Kasrkin Seath on Fri Mar 27, 2009 9:21 pm

KristallNacht wrote:the main reason anyone should cite for why is the fact they're far easier to aim and operate than pistols/handguns


But on the other hand, pistols and hand guns are much easier to acquire and conceal.
Assault Rifles are more than a tad bit harder to acquire and conceal if someone really wanted to use it to cause harm.

Banning them wouldn't stop people who wanted to kill/ use for thefts from using them int he first place. The black market would continue to sell them, so people who actually plan on killing someone or commiting those sorts of crimes will still be able to get them.
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Post by Angatar on Fri Mar 27, 2009 9:45 pm

If we don't have guns, the zombies will easily take over! Make them automatic!
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Post by Gauz on Fri Mar 27, 2009 9:56 pm

Fuck it.. make them automatic!
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Post by Jamiesway on Fri Mar 27, 2009 11:05 pm

only cuz i liek deer meet .......AND THATS THE ONLY THING I LIKE TO KILL.....but i name them before they die!!!
mwahahahahahaha
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Post by Toaster on Fri Mar 27, 2009 11:27 pm

This is a topic that I'm really not sure about. While it's true that nobody REALLY needs an m16... I have seen Red Dawn.

On the other hand, the unfortunate truth is that if we were invaded by... china... the militias defending US soil would probably be a bunch of redneck idiots... which is depressing.

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Post by Rasq'uire'laskar on Fri Mar 27, 2009 11:49 pm

TNine wrote:
I want a tank though!
But yeah, i agree. The second amendment is outdated.
Hardly.

And yeah, you only need 'commemorative' assault weapons... so, AK-47s and M-16s that can only fire semi-automatically.
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Post by BBJynne on Fri Mar 27, 2009 11:56 pm

ReconToaster wrote:On the other hand, the unfortunate truth is that if we were invaded by... china... the militias defending US soil would probably be a bunch of redneck idiots... which is depressing.

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Mexicans and Black people would aid us. (against Asians)

I know this from experience.

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Post by Rasq'uire'laskar on Fri Mar 27, 2009 11:58 pm

Heh, won't happen.

Give me a day in the local silicon manufacturing plant, or access to the hospital and local fertilizer companies, and I'll make a little dirty bomb... sail it into Hong Kong...
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Post by KristallNacht on Sat Mar 28, 2009 1:06 am

ReconToaster wrote:the militias defending US soil would probably be a bunch of redneck idiots... which is depressing.

You mean the Nat & Air Gaurds?
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Post by Rotaretilbo on Sat Mar 28, 2009 1:30 am

Erm...KrAzY, assault rifles and machine guns are two completely different classes of weapons, not to mention that we aren't even talking about automatic rifles, we're talking about assault rifles that have been modified so that they are not automatic. They're easier to handle, easier to aim, etc. We aren't giving civilians access to machine guns, we're giving civilians access to semi-automatic rifles that happened to be labeled as "assault" rifles. Take these away, and the next logical step is going to be regular rifles. Then pistols. Then shotguns. And soon, the only people on the streets with guns will be the criminals and the cops. And last time I checked, there are a lot more criminals than cops. We'd be fucking screwed.

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Post by Rasq'uire'laskar on Sat Mar 28, 2009 5:03 pm

That always did confuse me...
So, by banning weapons, we make it so that criminals can't get guns? Aren't they breaking the law anyways? Isn't the proletariat better off armed with handguns so as to protect themselves from the criminal class?

Oh, and best yet, here's how to end 95% of all rape in America. Simply arm each and every woman of sound mind above the age of 15 with a revolver. It's flawless.
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Post by BBJynne on Sat Mar 28, 2009 5:09 pm

so 5% is women raping men?

or is 5% women of unsound mind being raped?

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Post by Rasq'uire'laskar on Sat Mar 28, 2009 5:13 pm

5% is women who are somehow incapacitated, either by date rape drugs or by men who know their way around weapons.
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Post by Cheese on Sat Mar 28, 2009 5:36 pm

ReconToaster wrote:WOLVERINES!

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Post by PiEdude on Sat Mar 28, 2009 5:49 pm

KrAzY wrote:why the fuck do citizens need assault weapons?


rifles and shotguns for hunting are one thing... but there is absolutely no need to allow access to machine guns and such...


let the police keep em... but unless its a demilitarized version of that gun (aka a gun just for show... such as a veterans weapon) then the public should have absolutely no access to them


pistols, shotguns, and hunting rifles are all that the normal person should be allowed to attain

Exactly.

U.S. invaded Scenario aside, there is absolutely no need for assault weapons.

They may be harder to conceal, but it's not impossible.
North Hollywood Shootout, two men fought it out with police for 44 minutes, and they both had assault weapons. One shot, the other drove the car.

Drive by shootings.
I live in Chicago, hear about these things all the time.

Terrorist attacks.
Read Tom Clancy's The Teeth of the Tiger. Part of that book involved several terrorists entering the country throught Mexico, and then shooting up several malls in the Midwest, all using MAC 10s.

Assault weapons are just a bad idea for civillian use.
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Post by Rasq'uire'laskar on Sat Mar 28, 2009 5:51 pm

Machine weapons, yes.
Automatic rifles, no.

Besides, Teeth of the Tiger was crap compared to "Without Remorse".
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Post by PiEdude on Sat Mar 28, 2009 5:55 pm

I don't like to compare it to the Ryanverse.

I think of it as more of the beginning of a new saga, that Tom never really picked up on.
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Post by Rasq'uire'laskar on Sat Mar 28, 2009 6:00 pm

PiEman wrote:I don't like to compare it to the Ryanverse.

I think of it as more of the beginning of a new saga, that Tom never really picked up on.
I don't know.
I consider it the last, unfinished work of the creative soul in him, something it fought valiantly to complete before gasping and dying, leaving the work unfinished.
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Post by BBJynne on Sat Mar 28, 2009 6:00 pm

Without Remorse is part of the Ryanverse isn't it?

I mean, it's got Greer and Kelly in it (and his wife)


Edit: nvm, I have no idea what ur talking about lol

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