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Post by TNine on Fri Feb 27, 2009 7:33 pm

You guys seem to be forgetting the Forruner Drednaught (sp?). It rapes in space, it needs like 50:1 odds for the Covies heavy ships to fight it off, and even then it can destroy like 5 and just jump away.
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Post by Kasrkin Seath on Fri Feb 27, 2009 7:53 pm

hmmm...
Imperium would still likely win

some of their tech beats Forunner's hands down...(Humanity was at one point almost at that theoretical cieling for technological advancement)
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Post by Gold Spartan on Sat Feb 28, 2009 8:56 am

Untill whinny bitch Horus decided he was tired of being commander of the entire Imperium military force.
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Post by Rasq'uire'laskar on Sat Feb 28, 2009 9:06 pm

Mkay, I would first like to point out that using tank traps to fight from fixed positions is why the Iraqi army had so many losses.

Next, the Scorpion has a much lower profile, better terrain navigation, and an unknown level of armor. We can't judge its accuracy, as we have all acknowledged that the ranges/accuracies in Halo have been messed up to preserve gameplay.

As for anti-air, has nobody else heard of guided shells? And is it not possible that variants exist with 125 mm cannons, like the variants of MI Abrams? Next, note that we've only seen anti-infantry HEAT rounds deployed, which are inferior to APFSDS rounds.

Next, the Scorpion seems to be lighter and requires half the crew that an Abrams requires, meaning that more of them could be fielded.

On the other hand, the Abrams is the supreme fighting tank of the modern world, second only to the Merkov deployed by the Israeli Army. During Operation Desert Storm, an Abrams was bogged down in mud and left for the heavy equipment to haul out.

After they left, the tank was set upon by three T-72s. One fired a HEAT round, which hit the turret of the M1. The M1 fired an APFSDS round, which destroyed the T-72. A second T-72 fired a HEAT round and hit in the same place as the first one, to no avail. It was promptly dispatched. The third T-72 fired an APFSDS round, which gouged out a huge divot, but failed to do more damage.

The T-72 fled behind a sand berm, hoping to protect itself. But the M1 Abrams crew sighted on the exhaust column via their thermal imaging and fired an APFSDS round through the sand berm and through the T-72. Kaboom.

It doesn't end there, folks. When the retrieval machinery arrived, the M1 couldn't be pulled out of the mud. So, they had a nearby M1 fire upon the stuck M1 to destroy it and prevent capture. The M1 was largely undamaged. They had to position the M1 at an optimum angle at point blank range to destroy it, and they only succeeded in blowing up the ammo racks. The inner compartment burned out, but was quickly contained by the fire suppressant system.

Finally, they got several retrieval machines to pull it out, and they shipped the turret off to the US for analysis.
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Post by Kasrkin Seath on Sat Feb 28, 2009 9:47 pm

which is better (Merkev or M1's) is debatable... both are equal as far as im concerned.

M1 seems to a better MBT but the Merkev is extremely close when it comes to offensive capabilities AND can carry a small squad.

Depends on the situation I guess.
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Who needs guided shells when you can shoot missiles out of the barrel of you tanks gun?

Really, its hard to tell which is better from what we know, but I still have my money on the abrams when it comes to MBT's

I doubt the Scorpion was even built for the role that tanks like the Abrams, Merkev or Leopard have been, since there has been what, 300+ years of relative peace. They never needed an MBT that is meant to kill other tanks.
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Post by Rasq'uire'laskar on Sun Mar 01, 2009 12:07 am

Guided shell is probably cheaper, can be fired faster, yadda yadda yadda.
Missiles... they still have problems when fired from an artillery tube. They don't have a wider field of acquirement, from what I know.
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Post by Kasrkin Seath on Sun Mar 01, 2009 12:12 am

A guided shell can only do so much, a missile has much greater controll in its direction(and where it can go for that matter).

I think the Missiles are actually encased in a tank round, so they go off as fast as the tank can be loaded.


Also, the autoloader in the Scorpion can be seen as either an advantage or disadvantage... depends on the situation.

the M1's dont use autoloaders because they are far to slow when trying to change ammunition types, they weigh alot, etc.

however...

They can load rounds faster than a Human being could hope to. They dont sleep or eat.
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Post by BBJynne on Tue Mar 03, 2009 9:23 pm

Chuck Norris vs somebody else

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Post by Kasrkin Seath on Wed Mar 04, 2009 6:02 pm

lol

I have started arguments on FF.net now
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Post by Rasq'uire'laskar on Wed Mar 04, 2009 6:53 pm

Link please.
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Post by KrAzY on Wed Mar 04, 2009 8:23 pm

if chuck norris went to a parrallel dimension and found chuck norris... and they decided to have an ultimate battle... who would win?
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Post by CivBase on Wed Mar 04, 2009 8:25 pm

Chuck Norris.

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Post by KrAzY on Wed Mar 04, 2009 8:55 pm

but by having a winner... that means that Chuck Norris can be defeated
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Post by CivBase on Wed Mar 04, 2009 9:10 pm

No it doesn't, because Chuck Norris won. Razz

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Post by Gold Spartan on Wed Mar 04, 2009 9:33 pm

That is a trick question. Chuck Norris fighting another Chuck Norris in a another parellel universe would mean he neither won nor lost, for he would be fighting himself, meanign it either Chuck Norris goes to a draw or both universes explode due to the epicness of that titanic clash.
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Post by Angatar on Wed Mar 04, 2009 10:35 pm

Chuck Norris would win, everyone knows that Sirron Kcuhc is an imposter.
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Post by thane321 on Thu Mar 05, 2009 2:08 pm

faceit chuck norris < Gandalf the Grey and Gandalf the White and
Monty Python and the Holy Grail's Black Knight and
Benito Mussolini and The Blue Meanie and
Cowboy Curtis and Jambi the Genie
Robocop, the Terminator, Captain Kirk, and Darth Vader
Lo Pan, Superman, every single Power Ranger
Bill S. Preston and Theodore Logan,
Spock, The Rock, Doc Ock, and Hulk Hogan

Razz
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Post by Angatar on Thu Mar 05, 2009 3:23 pm

Everything<Halo<The Lord of the Rings<Frodo
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Post by Kasrkin Seath on Thu Mar 05, 2009 6:07 pm

Rasq'uire'laskar wrote:Link please.
basically just two or three threads
http://www.fanfiction.net/forum/Halo_Forums/3570/
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Post by TNine on Sun Mar 15, 2009 6:32 pm

Well, as someone said before, we know very little about Halo's weaponry, and it might only seem weak because Armour advanced slightly faster.

For all we know, an ODST vest could take a shot or two from an Abrams tank before falling.
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Post by Ascendant Justice on Sun Mar 15, 2009 7:07 pm

Angatar wrote:Everything<Halo<The Lord of the Rings<Frodo

^^^ This.
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Post by Kasrkin Seath on Mon Mar 16, 2009 4:50 am

Everything<Halo<The Lord of the Rings<Frodo<Chuck Norris

^fixed
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Post by CivBase on Mon Mar 16, 2009 2:59 pm

Everything<Halo<The Lord of the Rings<Frodo<Chuck Norris<Sunglasses

Fixed again

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Post by Onyxknight on Mon Mar 16, 2009 3:28 pm

Everything<Halo<The Lord of the Rings<Frodo<Chuck Norris<Sunglasses<Bruce Lee

Fixed again again
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Post by CivBase on Sat Mar 28, 2009 2:58 pm

Pickachu or MC?

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